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Qwiss

Klaus wrote:
goon wrote:
Lol Arteta is fuming, Pepe is finished.

What's he saying?

More or less blamed him for the loss.

tazmania

Nice of arteta to indirectly blame pepe for the match. No excuses for pepe but that's a little rich coming from him.

Klaus

Temo wrote:
Klaus wrote:
We're three points worse off now than we were at the same point last season, we've gone eight hours without a goal from open play in the league, and we just conceded the most shots in a game since that infamous Norwich match under Emery.

Had no idea, and Emery was sacked 29th of Nov so Arteta's clock has to start ticking soon

Yep, but we had also played more games by that date because the season started earlier. Still not a flattering fact though.

Qwiss

Temo wrote:
speedy wrote:
In theory, but then he just dribbles and doesn't know what to do. He's no idea how to be effective yet.

Has decent technique, freakish agility and that's about it

My hopes are that he can become the new Iwobi, someone who can link midifeld an attack, always moves and shows, works hard, etc If he goes beyond that I'd be delighted. Has it all to prove though.

goon

I know the guy gets Pepe sent off but I swear Pepe looks like he initiates almost every altercation with that guy. Just get on with the game.

Sicario

Klaus wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
I'm not sure we played long enough with 11 men to make that point.

It's based on the last ten month rather than the first 50 minutes today.

Don Pacifico wrote:
Also, side-point but really don't think we can prioritise playing style at this point in time. We need results.

How's that going for us? We're three points worse off now than we were at the same point last season, we've gone eight hours without a goal from open play in the league, and we just conceded the most shots in a game since that infamous Norwich match under Emery.

Emery never managed us v Norwich

Klaus

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
What's he saying?

More or less blamed him for the loss.

Well that's ironic since we actually played better after the red when we didn't have enough men to do his pointless possession thing and had to be more direct.

Qwiss

naz wrote:
Nice of arteta to indirectly blame pepe for the match. No excuses for pepe but that's a little rich coming from him.

Stinks of a manager feeling the pressure TBH. Arteta was no angel himself so his attitude with Pepe now and Guendouzi before him is a bit much.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Temo wrote:
Rohit wrote:
We are clearly not allowing creative freedom to players.

Most of our attacking players don't have the creativity to warrant that freedom. People understate just how limited most of them are - look at Saka coming on and all of a sudden we can string more than 3 passes together. Not to say it's not Arteta's fault if he's expecting too much from the attackers he has.

I include Aubameyang in that. He's playing like he was right after the restart in June, when I was hoping we'd sell rather than renew him. Just not good enough.

goon

Klaus wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
I'm not sure we played long enough with 11 men to make that point.

It's based on the last ten month rather than the first 50 minutes today.

Don Pacifico wrote:
Also, side-point but really don't think we can prioritise playing style at this point in time. We need results.

How's that going for us? We're three points worse off now than we were at the same point last season, we've gone eight hours without a goal from open play in the league, and we just conceded the most shots in a game since that infamous Norwich match under Emery.

Yeah but then we’ve played City, United and Liverpool away as well as Leicester at home.

I saw something a few weeks ago that said we’ve amassed more points in the like for like games this season though we’ve lost to Villa and drawn to Leeds since.

Temo

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:
Temo wrote:
Most of our attacking players don't have the creativity to warrant that freedom. People understate just how limited most of them are - look at Saka coming on and all of a sudden we can string more than 3 passes together. Not to say it's not Arteta's fault if he's expecting too much from the attackers he has.

I include Aubameyang in that. He's playing like he was right after the restart in June, when I was hoping we'd sell rather than renew him. Just not good enough.

Was awful today. Everything is so laboured and slow, like his minds not really in it.

Clrnc

Sicario wrote:
Klaus wrote:
It's based on the last ten month rather than the first 50 minutes today.

How's that going for us? We're three points worse off now than we were at the same point last season, we've gone eight hours without a goal from open play in the league, and we just conceded the most shots in a game since that infamous Norwich match under Emery.

Emery never managed us v Norwich

Obviously Klaus meant Watford.

Kel Varnsen

goon wrote:
I know the guy gets Pepe sent off but I swear Pepe looks like he initiates almost every altercation with that guy. Just get on with the game.

Pepe just seems dumb as shit om the pitch. Nelson and Saka are so much better at all the fundamental aspects of football. It's as if he never learned it.

Clrnc

goon wrote:
I saw something a few weeks ago that said we’ve amassed more points in the like for like games this season though we’ve lost to Villa and drawn to Leeds since.

Yeah by 1 point, pretty irrelevant.

Klaus

Clrnc wrote:
Sicario wrote:
Emery never managed us v Norwich

Obviously Klaus meant Watford.

I did, but it's a little hard to tell all the underwhelming Emery performances against relegation teams apart. There were so many of them.

lorddulaarsenal

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
What's he saying?

More or less blamed him for the loss.

Feels like a loss

Qwiss

We should play to Artetas strengths again until at least Christmas, let him lean into his negative side, we've too many tough games to change style at the moment so shut up shop, play Auba, Saka and Nelson up top and try to counter with pace. What else have we got there days?

goon

Qwiss! wrote:
naz wrote:
Nice of arteta to indirectly blame pepe for the match. No excuses for pepe but that's a little rich coming from him.

Stinks of a manager feeling the pressure TBH. Arteta was no angel himself so his attitude with Pepe now and Guendouzi before him is a bit much.

Wenger did the same with van Persie and he learnt from it. It’s not like it was a mistimed tackle. Stupid shit deserves to be called out.

Jed

Make Kieran Tierney captain now

Temo

Klaus wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
More or less blamed him for the loss.

Well that's ironic since we actually played better after the red when we didn't have enough men to do his pointless possession thing and had to be more direct.

He should really be smart enough to see these players don't fit that style. It requires a Cesc or a KDB, someone orchestrating everything at their own pace, with the genius to see the opening when it presents itself

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