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Anzac

Don't we still need to ship out at least 1 non-HG player to make room for MO as it is?
Surely that means the likes of Mustafi/Runarsson likely to depart at the very least.

As for a LB I think Cedric can cover until the summer, if we then also consider Chambers as potential cover at RB if AMN departs.

goon

goon wrote:
I have a hunch one surprise may be that we loan out AMN, either be bringing in a left back or maybe playing Cedric there and using Chambers on the right if need be. The kid will most likely want to play to secure a place in the Euros.

Ahead of the game as ever:

Asterix

That would probably be West Ham, but they're 5th now.

ohboy

No chance I loan him to WBA. It will not be a positive to his value, that team is in complete disarray.

Keep him or loan/sell him to a mid table team or above.

Palace, Wolves etc should be interested in someone like AMN

banduan

find a team missing a CM I say, let him get his fave position.

speedy

I'd be up for a cheeky bid for Ndombele. Just unsettle him and piss them off. I think he could play beside partey and progress the ball a lot. we'd be really hard to pin in with those two. And he'd give us an alternative to ESR in the more attacking role (If we shift AMN and torerria and get any funds in. Which isnt likely as nobody has any money really)

goon

ohboy!!! wrote:
No chance I loan him to WBA. It will not be a positive to his value, that team is in complete disarray.

I think he'd do well at a team like WBA. His defensive ability will be highlighted, think AWB at Palace. Consistent game time will likely be enough to get him into the England squad for the summer, which will again raise his value.

Forcing a sale this window or keeping him to sit on the bench for another 6 months will mean he and his value stagnates and doesn't go up from the 15m Wolves offered.

ohboy

goon wrote:
ohboy!!! wrote:
No chance I loan him to WBA. It will not be a positive to his value, that team is in complete disarray.

I think he'd do well at a team like WBA. His defensive ability will be highlighted, think AWB at Palace. Consistent game time will likely be enough to get him into the England squad for the summer, which will again raise his value.

Forcing a sale this window or keeping him to sit on the bench for another 6 months will mean he and his value stagnates and doesn't go up from the 15m Wolves offered.

I would like him to get more game time, but would rather he goes to Palace, Wolves etc who could get him game time, plus he could shine.

WBA are getting slapped every week, and Big Sam has not put his normal defensive nous on WBA, which spells trouble. Apart from WBA, and Sheff United, I would send AMN to any of the other premier league clubs.

GooneriC

Why would AMN go to WBA on loan to play at RB, when his preferred position is midfield. He is only playing RB here because we had no other backup to Bellerin until Cedric came. As long as Bellerin plays and Cedric is available to cover he has no chance to play. So from his view if he is to go on loan it won't be to play RB.

QuincyAbeyie

To go on loan and play RB would surely be preferable to staying here and not play at all. That there exists an even better option doesn't change that.

speedy

GooneriC wrote:
Why would AMN go to WBA on loan to play at RB, when his preferred position is midfield. He is only playing RB here because we had no other backup to Bellerin until Cedric came. As long as Bellerin plays and Cedric is available to cover he has no chance to play. So from his view if he is to go on loan it won't be to play RB.

Because nobody wants him as a CM. His game is really basic even as a FB. He's super talented but not progressing in his understanding off the game at all. He's grand as a fullback when we play super deep on the counter. Then its just one on one defending and pace on the counter as his assets.

Qwiss

If he wants to go to the Euros it'll be as a RB not a CM

goon

ohboy!!! wrote:
goon wrote:
I think he'd do well at a team like WBA. His defensive ability will be highlighted, think AWB at Palace. Consistent game time will likely be enough to get him into the England squad for the summer, which will again raise his value.

Forcing a sale this window or keeping him to sit on the bench for another 6 months will mean he and his value stagnates and doesn't go up from the 15m Wolves offered.

I would like him to get more game time, but would rather he goes to Palace, Wolves etc who could get him game time, plus he could shine.

WBA are getting slapped every week, and Big Sam has not put his normal defensive nous on WBA, which spells trouble. Apart from WBA, and Sheff United, I would send AMN to any of the other premier league clubs.

True. Sounds like Southampton want him now which would be perfect, though I do worry about him being exposed a little with the casual nature of his passing.

If nothing else it shows Ainsley is in demand, unless he was a poor loan spell we should be about to fetch a decent fee for him in the summer.

QuincyAbeyie

Yes, Southampton please.

Jed

Wherever he goes, hopefully it’s to a club who will be play him in central midfield.

Clrnc

Southampton have Walkers Peters who apparently is doing very well for them past 2 years.

Probably to play midfield there

goon

No one is going to take a player who has played as a full back/wing back for 95% of his senior career on a 6 month loan just to play him in centre mid. Everyone needs to stop trying to make that happen.

Southampton need general full back cover, which is why apparently Ainsley would prefer West Brom as he's more likely to get game time there.

QuincyAbeyie

Damn, I forgot about Walker-Peters. I actually don't even want him to play midfield as he's a good fullback in the making if he gets a run there. I guess WBA is the better option then.

Clrnc

Mustafi terminated, Willock, AMN, Nelson going out on loan apparently. Pretty good solutions for January to minimise a bloated squad. Just need to make sure they go for good loans and not just sit on other people bench

goon

I still would have added Eddie to that list, we're not exactly short of options up top.

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