Premier League 20/21: Page 9 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Premier League 20/21

goon

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Damn, didn't realize it was that low. Their goals had xG values of 0.05, 0.06 and 0.07 respectively and then they had 0.15 xG worth of shots other than their goals.

That Bamford chance was clear cut as far as I'm concerned, you're telling me it he was given a 6% chance of scoring there?

QuincyAbeyie

goon wrote:
Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Damn, didn't realize it was that low. Their goals had xG values of 0.05, 0.06 and 0.07 respectively and then they had 0.15 xG worth of shots other than their goals.

That Bamford chance was clear cut as far as I'm concerned, you're telling me it he was given a 6% chance of scoring there?

Seems low, although I don't think it was an easy chance since Alisson had come out as well as he could. A penalty is 0.8 and there the keeper is on his line and you have the perfect angle to score. Maybe xG has a problem calculating lob opportunities and therefore gives a low result when the keeper is covering a lot of the angles when you don’t consider lobs? Have no idea how it works to be honest.

goon

It's definitely not right. Stuff like this is why I don't really trust xG, I get no model is perfect but that seems way off to me.

James having a good debut for Everton.

Klaus

It's a quantitive stat so it doesn't matter much in an isolated game. They're shaped to be consistent over time though.

GooneriC

James still looks a very good player, he will be ace for Everton this season

Mirth

S2 of All or Nothing off to a promising start.

goon

What a cross and great header from Calvert-Lewin.

Spurs look dire.

Claudius

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
goon wrote:
That Bamford chance was clear cut as far as I'm concerned, you're telling me it he was given a 6% chance of scoring there?

Seems low, although I don't think it was an easy chance since Alisson had come out as well as he could. A penalty is 0.8 and there the keeper is on his line and you have the perfect angle to score. Maybe xG has a problem calculating lob opportunities and therefore gives a low result when the keeper is covering a lot of the angles when you don’t consider lobs? Have no idea how it works to be honest.

You realize that xG is based on all previous chances that have as many similar characteristics as that one. They keep updating the models to add more details, even dimensions like height of the ball to help calculate each opportunity.

Great goal Everton. It’s been coming. Hope they get more.

GooneriC

Gee that's a great header

goon

GooneriC wrote:
James still looks a very good player, he will be ace for Everton this season

Even if he doesn't light the league up, he's a better footballer than Everton could ever dream of having otherwise.

Mirth

goon wrote:
What a cross and great header from Calvert-Lewin.

Spurs look dire.

Spurs squad need a refresh - too many of them have been around for a while and look jaded. Hojberg in particular looks awful out there.

Claudius

Hilarious that Dele Alli spent the first half running into everybody else’s way. And then got pulled. I thought he was supposed to be the North London Messi

goon

Hojberg is such a small time signing. Him and Winks are a bottom half of the table pairing.

goon

Claudius wrote:
Hilarious that Dele Alli spent the first half running into everybody else’s way. And then got pulled. I thought he was supposed to be the North London Messi

Looks like he's condensed the full span of his career into about 5 years and is now in his twilight years ready for the MLS.

Mirth

goon wrote:
Hojberg is such a small time signing. Him and Winks are a bottom half of the table pairing.

Actually the sort of midfield you'd expect to see at Everton

Claudius

Spurs are dull. How can a brand new team be more exciting than them?

goon

Auba would have had a hattrick if he found himself in the positions Richarlison found himself in.

Spurs look broken, much like they did this time last year. Good thing is they probably can't afford to sack Jose. What a ridiculous appointment he was.

Qwiss

Everton should have put this to bed, Spurs are terrible.

Klaus

goon wrote:
Auba would have had a hattrick if he found himself in the positions Richarlison found himself in.

That chance he fluffed in the first half has to be an early miss of the season contender.

AAStyle

Should we have made a bid for James? Seems like his final price was just 12M pounds.

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