Gazza M wrote:
But again, the tone of your post implies the fans are responsible for initially sparking the positive vibe, when that's not the case. the fans reflect and amplify what they see and feel on the pitch, but it starts with what the club produce. Arteta has already said the club is responsible for giving supporters something to shout for. That's the kind of accountability you want to see, not the tail wagging the dog. fans didn't turn liverpool around- klopp led and they followed. Your arguement in reminiscent of the type of mentality wenger was espousing during his lowest times at the club. It is also devoid of the context that fans have been watching the club slip into mediocrity over the course of 10 years
He doesn’t get it.
He sounds more like AFTV then he realises.
I knew that Klopp and super Liverpool would not be far behind, never mind those super fan scousers have booed and heckled managers and Players they didn’t like. Where was that super support when they hired Hodgson?
Where was that super fan mentality towards record signing Andy Carrol?
No, Liverpool after making mistake after mistake, woke up and secured by far and away the consensus best manager appointment in the world after Guardiola. In fact due to his attitude and style, the best appointment Liverpool could make.
Even then in his first season there was lots of murmurs that he style would not work in the premier league, and he couldn’t organise a defence to save his life (from Liverpool fans). Now when there were clear signs that he was steering the club in the right direction the fans followed.
If Arteta has the same trajectory, our fans would be overflowing with positivity.
The answer is the same, it is for the club to show the fans they are serious, and then the fans follow.
Singling out players is a waste of time, but blaming the fans for certain players form is also a complete waste of time.