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Emery’s Team

flobaba

Ricky is Mr Z

Bold Tone

Klaus wrote:
... You see a noted difference in how they understand the basics between Guendouzi, who's been in the first team since he arrived, and the lads Freddie had in the U23 team. One can't position his body to receive the ball while the others do it effortlessly. And it's not because The Dooz lacks technical ability, because he doesn't. Apparently Ljungberg has done some specific coaching with him in the last two months to fix some of the holes, ...

Apart from achieving Champions League status (which is the minimum requirement after adding Pepe, Ceballos and Tierney to the squad) I assumed he was a technical coach who would develop players along the way.
Now that you mention it, I'm coming to the realisation that he is simply a tactical coach best at setting up the team for particular matches as shown by his success in cup competitions and that's worrying.

Kel Varnsen

Clrnc wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Thing is the squad wouldn't be the same. He'd given up pushing kids and probably would have nixed the Pepe deal. He'd have held onto Mhki, etc and you'd still have Xhaka every game.

That's fair enough. His endeavour to not get the best squad to help his cause is annoying.

This thread has been pasted before here but it's still scary how he could predict everything about Emery. It's like he has come from the future.

Emery's team is always exactly the same, terrible away from home, throw away massive leads and is too conservative even with the players he have at his disposal.

That video thing makes sense. Emery seems like one of those coaches who'll obsess over minor details and just kill the players' sense of joy and motivation. He's too insecure and keeps tinkering with the team back and forth. I think he'll be fired before the summer.

mdgoonah41

if its truly a language issue, then it is completely and totally insane where we are right now.

if i got tapped to lead a company in germany and 95% of the employees didnt really understand english, and i could not speak more than 5 words in german, i would not try to lead meetings or explain processes in german. because...well, its fucking obvious why i wouldnt.

are none of his trusted people truly bilingual? did the club not think this might be an issue? if he was a brilliant polyglot and he could have mastered english in 6 months, then it would have been a non-issue, but if he can't explain what he wants the team to do, how is the team supposed to play in a cohesive manner? i get wanting to learn the language and wanting to give it everything youve got. in the above example, id work my ass off to learn german so i could speak in german, but i wouldnt conduct meetings and try to lead them in german until i was fluent in the language and i was sure that everyone could understand me.

as someone who does work with a number of global teams with people from europe and south america, im often in meetings where it is difficult to understand what someone is asking either because of their attempt to speak english, their accent, or both. if i dont understand something, i try to get them to clarify what they meant. i never just take an unclear statement and just wing it. thats nuts.

Anzac

As much as the communication may be a genuine issue, I'm not buying it in terms of our play.
At the start of last season we saw the team playing a different system very well, including not only a high intensity press but also switching flanks as part of the strategy to change the focus of the attack and to exploit space, as well as covering more distance per game. Likewise we saw more pressing in pre-season.

I can understand we could not continue to do so last season after the injuries, but there is little excuse for us not to see anything now.

Clrnc

Dont believe communication is an issue. There are so many top class manager who dont speak a word of native language doing well in foreign leagues throughout the history of football. It cannot be the main cause, not when his team displayed the exact same weaknesses and problem in every single team he has managed.

Rohit

Yeah, if language is an issue he can always learn from an Arsenal legend.

MuswellHillGooner

flobaba

Just to be clear, poor communication isn’t because he doesn’t speak fluent Anglonese. Let’s not get silly - that’s no big deal at all.

It’s about his ability to convey his tactics and ideas to the team or their inability to carry them out.

y va marquer

Claudius

flobaba wrote:
Just to be clear, poor communication isn’t because he doesn’t speak fluent Anglonese. Let’s not get silly - that’s no big deal at all.

It’s about his ability to convey his tactics and ideas to the team or their inability to carry them out.

Language is probably just an easy observable excuse for other underlying problems

The problem is probably because players are used to having clear regular routines that they just have to keep repeating over and over and over. With Emery it’s a lottery. Will I be playing? Which formation are we playing and which position will I be in? Now imagine you’re a young player trying to develop or a new player trying to integrate.

Klaus

y va marquer wrote:

"Et tu, Brute?"

y va marquer

😆 Exactly

Bold Tone

flobaba wrote:
Just to be clear, poor communication isn’t because he doesn’t speak fluent Anglonese. Let’s not get silly - that’s no big deal at all.

It’s about his ability to convey his tactics and ideas to the team or their inability to carry them out.

I agree communication is not an issue but disagree about our inability to carry out his tactics.
He managed in Spain, where language is not a barrier, and his teams there were also poor in defence.
There's no ambiguity as he admitted as much in his first interview.

What are the characteristics of an Unai Emery team? How do you like your teams to play?

With personality. This personality for all the minutes of a match: protagonists. I like the possession with the ball, I like good pressing against the other team. I prefer to win 5-4 than win 1-0.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/i-prefer-win-5-4-win-1-0

lorddulaarsenal

Claudius

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

I hope folks don’t get distracted by this “follow instructions” straw man. I fear it will simplify Emery’s problems when there is a lot more happening than this. I really don’t buy this narrative.

Shady

Lose to Leicester. Sack this bum. Get our new man in.

We go again after the international break.

GooneriC

There's a poll on arseblogs twitter out of 21000 votes 19,410 want him sacked right now.

Jed

Why take off Torreira for Saka? It almost feels like self-sabotage at this point.

Anzac

GooneriC wrote:
There's a poll on arseblogs twitter out of 21000 votes 19,410 want him sacked right now.

You'd think the club would be keeping an eye on this sort of thing on social media, given the nature of those involved in the #WeCareDoYou open letter last summer.

From the shots I saw of the game it looked like the 2nd tier in the stadium was mainly empty today.

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