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William Saliba

QuincyAbeyie

Big Willie wrote:
This hasn't been handled well but he has age on his side and past performances to back up the idea that he'll come good eventually (assuming the reason for his exclusion is performance in training related). That he's young means that time is on his side to turn things around.

I'm not worried for the long-term either, I'm just annoyed that we're seemingly making the road there as hard as possible.

speedy

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Big Willie wrote:
This hasn't been handled well but he has age on his side and past performances to back up the idea that he'll come good eventually (assuming the reason for his exclusion is performance in training related). That he's young means that time is on his side to turn things around.

I'm not worried for the long-term either, I'm just annoyed that we're seemingly making the road there as hard as possible.

It's likely Sok, Chambers, Luiz will be gone next year in which case saliba will get lots of games.

Gazza M

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Big Willie wrote:
This hasn't been handled well but he has age on his side and past performances to back up the idea that he'll come good eventually (assuming the reason for his exclusion is performance in training related). That he's young means that time is on his side to turn things around.

I'm not worried for the long-term either, I'm just annoyed that we're seemingly making the road there as hard as possible.

You get the sense we wouldn't have seen gabriel for months had luiz, mustafi and mari not had fitness problems as well. When you sink 20m+ into defender its in your best interest to get them up to speed as quickly as possible

Clrnc

Gazza M wrote:
Quincy Abeyie wrote:
I'm not worried for the long-term either, I'm just annoyed that we're seemingly making the road there as hard as possible.

You get the sense we wouldn't have seen gabriel for months had luiz, mustafi and mari not had fitness problems as well. When you sink 20m+ into defender its in your best interest to get them up to speed as quickly as possible

If that's the case then Arteta needs to be blamed, because in training its very easy to see their respective levels.

It's kind of annoying that by the time Saliba comes good his contract will probably need to be renewed, the road there is such a waste of time when it shouldnt have been the case. He should never be behind Mustafi in the pecking order unless he is League 1 level.

Reading through Arteta's comments about him, pretty sure its physicality he is worried about.

Kel Varnsen

Claudius wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:
This and the Pepe signing have the potential to become some of the worst signings ever at Arsenal.

It’s still very early days on this kid. He’s 19. We just need to get his career on track.
The key with this stuff is to forget the transfer fee once it’s happened. And look forward. Looking forward what do you have? You have a highly rated 19 year old with Ligue 1 experience. Get him games and take it from there. It’s a different starting point from Pépé who is a 25 year old who is struggling to get consistency within and across games with issues around fundamentals that aren’t being overcome by his flashes of brilliance. That to me sounds like a potential12th man, not a key piece of the starting lineup.

Yes, it's early, but the fact that he's not playing is very unusual. That and Arteta's comments are clear signs that something is not right. Everything might work out in the end, but so far this transfer has been a complete waste of money.

Meatwad

i guess the only good thing is that they're paying like 5m a year for him.

Anzac

Meatwad wrote:
i guess the only good thing is that they're paying like 5m a year for him.

Which is another reason they can take time with him and not rush to integrate him based of his fee.

MistaT

There were rumors a while back Saliba's mother had passed, but now it appears he lost both parents.

🙁

Claudius

Bloody hell. All the best to the bloke. Wonder what we can do to show him support. Must be an awful time.

Bosscielny

We showed him support by not throwing him in the deep end and seeing him possibly get exposed to our toxic fanbase. Then we shat on club for it.

Claudius

Fair. It's hard to know what's happening, and the club / player really aren't obligated to tell us everything as much as the new social media era makes fans think they're entitled to know everything

Mirth

Very tragic. Hope he's given enough time off to go back to France whenever he needs to, particularly now that he doesn't have any first team commitments

KingslandBarge

Just awful and condolences to the lad. Saliba may be in a shook reality so I hope the club makes every effort to nurture him in this time. I'm not sure a loan(or any football) is the answer but certainly a leave of absence.

Daz

Nice to see a bit more perspective in the posts above. At the end of the day, Saliba is a 19 year old kid. Hope he's got good supports around him and that the club are part of that.

banduan

Hope the senior players can show him loadsa support too. You can say all the shit about em but they look a happy loving bunch.

Bosscielny

Daz wrote:
Nice to see a bit more perspective in the posts above. At the end of the day, Saliba is a 19 year old kid. Hope he's got good supports around him and that the club are part of that.

As long as you don’t go too far above. You don’t even have to go back a page to see him being branded as possibly the worst signing we’ve ever made.

Then again, it was only five or six posts ago we thought he had only lost one parent, maybe now we know he had lost the other, albeit a few years ago, the kid might be afforded a bit of time before we start counting how much we’re throwing away on his salary.

Clrnc

Mirth wrote:
Very tragic. Hope he's given enough time off to go back to France whenever he needs to, particularly now that he doesn't have any first team commitments

It's abit misleading but it was 2018.

flobaba

Bosscielny wrote:
Daz wrote:
Nice to see a bit more perspective in the posts above. At the end of the day, Saliba is a 19 year old kid. Hope he's got good supports around him and that the club are part of that.

As long as you don’t go too far above. You don’t even have to go back a page to see him being branded as possibly the worst signing we’ve ever made.

Then again, it was only five or six posts ago we thought he had only lost one parent, maybe now we know he had lost the other, albeit a few years ago, the kid might be afforded a bit of time before we start counting how much we’re throwing away on his salary.

Amen! Or how incompetent the entire Arsenal coaching and scouting planet is.

Burnwinter

Such a harsh fate for one who otherwise seems to have it made in life. You've got to count your blessings in this world.

goon

Arteta confirms it’s both personal and professional issues that have been the issue, but sounds much more positive. Unless he’s suddenly going to leap frog Holding, Luiz and Chambers I think we’re better off loaning him for six months, preferably to a PL or Championship side.

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