I'm just glad we get a player who is able to progress the ball through the centre rendering Xhaka's long balls that hardly amount to anything inconsequential. This option should help us break the solid defensive lines of teams that sit back and punish us on the counter.

I love Ceballos but knowing that our most talented midfielder is going to be a young loanee just reminds me that our team planning is chaotic. I really hope he succeeds. And then what?

Then we buy him with our new found CL money.

In all seriousness it sounds like the only reason Madrid didn't want to sell to Spurs or us is because the offers were not big enough. A good season on loan and his value will likely go up. So if he does have a good season and we want to keep him I reckon we'd have a decent chance of making it permanent.

goon wrote:

Then we buy him with our new found CL money.

Assuming there isn’t a place for him in Madrid. If Isco and Modric are gone, there’s space for him, even with Pogba in. It’s a smart move by Zidane to develop him outside.

goon wrote:

In all seriousness it sounds like the only reason Madrid didn't want to sell to Spurs or us is because the offers were not big enough. A good season on loan and his value will likely go up. So if he does have a good season and we want to keep him I reckon we'd have a decent chance of making it permanent.

Also spurs are looking to buy not loan as they have ready cash and the player didn't want to leave for good.
They also use incentive-heavy contracts so they can get away with paying peanuts if goals are not achieved.

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Personally think we’ll see a rejuvenated Mesut this season

He’ll be rejuvenated for a couple of games then go back to sulking once the hair dye wears off.

He will be spotty. These pre-season games won’t help. He will be hyped up because of the special circumstances of Bayern and area Madrid. But when he has to go to Watford and Newcastle, he will return to type.

If we only get this guy for one season, but he helps secure Champions League football, then I'll be happy with that.

Özil has been talking differently about Emery recently though. I was starting to think we would get a lot more out of him this season. We know he has the quality.

As good as Ceballos looks, and thanks for posting that video Jones, I can't help thinking we've been a little done by Spurs this summer. They get Lo Celso and Ndombele, whilst we end up with Ceballos on a season long loan. I've said elsewhere they are the bigger draw right now, but it still irks me a little. Especially Ndombele. That one sickens me.

I've seen a lot of Arsenal fans crowing over us getting Saliba and Ceballos over them, but I can't shake the feeling that it's because they wanted the former this season and not next and the latter permanently and not on loan. It needs must for us right now, but I'm really not liking this new development of them being on at least the same footing as us.

It's encouraging that they clearly wanted Ceballos over Lo Celso in a big way though.

Claudius wrote:

He will be spotty. These pre-season games won’t help. He will be hyped up because of the special circumstances of Bayern and area Madrid. But when he has to go to Watford and Newcastle, he will return to type.

That's a new one.
The narrative has been him not turning up for big games.
It's a lot of BS to be fair as it hasn't just been him not performing when we got spanked 5-1 by Bayern or 4-nil by Liverpool for example.
The reduction in playing time should suit him anyways as another criticism was him picking and choosing games.
In any case he is gone in a couple of years so it's no big deal.

Actually it is a big deal, getting rid of him sooner would be huge.

Ricky1985 wrote:

Özil has been talking differently about Emery recently though. I was starting to think we would get a lot more out of him this season. We know he has the quality.

As good as Ceballos looks, and thanks for posting that video Jones, I can't help thinking we've been a little done by Spurs this summer. They get Lo Celso and Ndombele, whilst we end up with Ceballos on a season long loan. I've said elsewhere they are the bigger draw right now, but it still irks me a little. Especially Ndombele. That one sickens me.

I've seen a lot of Arsenal fans crowing over us getting Saliba and Ceballos over them, but I can't shake the feeling that it's because they wanted the former this season and not next and the latter permanently and not on loan. It needs must for us right now, but I'm really not liking this new development of them being on at least the same footing as us.

It's encouraging that they clearly wanted Ceballos over Lo Celso in a big way though.

They have gotten the best player in Ndombele, but you can't use that as an argument for them being a bigger draw as we were never in for him (because we're poor). I know of two players both Spurs and we were in for, and that's Saliba and Ceballos. Players having the choice between us and them and choosing them is what would've made them a bigger draw. Us not being able to afford the same transfers as them does not.

Only in the sense that we would gain £350k minus whatever extra we have to subsidise deal.
There's no lump sum gained so it's not huge at all and no club is giving us a £30m player and agreeing to be paid £350k a week over a 2 year span.

Really like the profile of players Emery wants. Better on the ball than Wenger’s misfits

Ricky1985 wrote:

Özil has been talking differently about Emery recently though. I was starting to think we would get a lot more out of him this season. We know he has the quality.

As good as Ceballos looks, and thanks for posting that video Jones, I can't help thinking we've been a little done by Spurs this summer. They get Lo Celso and Ndombele, whilst we end up with Ceballos on a season long loan. I've said elsewhere they are the bigger draw right now, but it still irks me a little. Especially Ndombele. That one sickens me.

I've seen a lot of Arsenal fans crowing over us getting Saliba and Ceballos over them, but I can't shake the feeling that it's because they wanted the former this season and not next and the latter permanently and not on loan. It needs must for us right now, but I'm really not liking this new development of them being on at least the same footing as us.

It's encouraging that they clearly wanted Ceballos over Lo Celso in a big way though.

Ndombele doesn't come into it as Quincy says we simply couldn't afford him. If it's between Ceballos and Lo Celso there's no comparison and I actually think the latter is decent. Saliba actively chose us ahead of them if you want one clear situation where a player had to decide between the two clubs.

We're still Arsenal, club of Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira - even my company phone's autocorrect suggestions knew the last names when I typed Thierry and Patrick ffs. They are still Tottenham and my phone sure as shit doesn't know the last names of Jermaine and Ledley

I'm relatively confident if we have a good season we can sign him permanently. Or at least this will help to build another good relationship with Madrid they might even do us a favour to sell us another player next season if Ceballos doesn't want to be here permanently. According to Romano Perez says he will review the situation next season to see if a permanent deal can be done. Madrid don't give young players chances so if he's smart he will know.

Lo Celso to Spurs is a real sickener though. Guy was one of the most impressive midfielder statistically that passes forward last year alongside Ndombele and they get both ffs

Maybe Ceballos just wanted to see if Emery is true to his word on playing him for 40+ games before deciding whether he wants to be here long term, after seeing what happened with Suarez.

He probably just wants to make sure Mustafi is staying before he commits long term.