Klaus wrote:

I don't think Willock is the only one we've got. Last time I looked we still have Guendouzi and Torreira at the club too. Ideally we'd sign someone though; someone we can get on a permanent deal. It would make it feel more worthwhile to put time and minutes into their development.

Willock is hypothetically in this situation the only addition we will get as douzi and Torreira are already here, we don’t have the numbers in midfield. Or we sign someone else. I’m happy to settle for Ceballos in a summer where money is clearly tight.

Yeah, numbers wise Ceballos makes sense to bring in, but I want a permanent signing. I feel we should make a bigger effort to make it happen rather than taking the cheapest possible stop-gap option. Amazing how we seem to have had no plan whatsoever to replace Ramsey.

Hopefully we'll get as much out of this as Chelsea did by putting time and minutes into Kovasic's development.

Qwiss! wrote:
Mirth wrote:

Depends -do you want to qualify for the Champions league this season or not?

Are we guaranteed CL with him here?

Don't understand your point - our chances are obviously improved having him here.

Plus we're on a tight budget, in an ideal world we'd obviously rather bring in permanent transfers but you got to manage it as best you can.

We have numbers and to a degree the talent in CM. A loan makes sense in that we have a skint budget that has to be prioritized elsewhere (LB, winger, and ideally CB).

What's he like , seems to be closer to Cazorla in style than Cesc.

More old school Cesc than quasi 10 Cesc

Klaus wrote:

Have Frankfurt done any good business this summer with all the cash they must be sitting on now, Jones? They signed Kostic permanently, didn't they? Is the plan that Rebic will step up next season with Jovic and Haller gone?

Yeah Kostic was signed permanently for 5m in June. There was apparently a bid over 44m EUR but the club categorically rejected any bids which is pretty incredible given that the whole transfer budget in 2017 was 2.7m EUR.

The club is incredibly well run, Bobic and especially Ben Manga have done so well that even with Hallers departure I'm not worried. There have been some rumours but nothing concrete, although the rumours usually only pop up shortly before the deals done.

We have signed a Jovic regen called Dejan Joveljic for just 5m, from Red Star too. Doesn't seem like he could help immediately but then no one thought that about the Serb he replaces. Rebic is still linked with moves to Inter or Atletico but hopefully will stay put. If someone is expected to step up it's Paciencia who will now get a lot more minutes, barely got a look in in comparison because of how well the trio were doing but still popped up with a couple goals including a very important one in Lisbon. Most of the Jovic money went into strengthening the weakest part of the team midfield, two players in Kohr and Sow for 10m each look like that issue has been solved although the latter got injured in training and misses two months right away.

At least one more striker will come in though, apparently for around 15m-20m according to local media. Rest of the money will fund new infrastructure and pay for the loanees who have returned to their respective clubs (Hinteregger for 12m, Trapp 8m, Rode 3m).

Don't understand the complaints at a loan deal. We cannot afford to fix all the holes in our squad this summer so we choose our priority positions for permanent signings and use loans to cover shortfalls elsewhere (it also might be to protect youth players we believe in for the future but who are not ready yet).

There's nothing wrong with a loan deal if it includes an option that we are at liberty to exercise. If he comes and pulls up trees, then we sign him. If he's another Denis Suarez, then we ship him back

Don’t know why, but I am more excited about this guy (even if it is a loan deal) than any of the players we’ve been linked with so far this summer

MistaT wrote:

More old school Cesc than quasi 10 Cesc

If that's the case then I'm excited as that's the kind of player we've needed for a long time (although Santi was it for a little while).

Obviously we also desperately need a powerhouse in the middle but who knows, maybe Willock can surprise?

If we had the budget i think we'd make a permanent move for someone like ceballos, but i think we were always going to have to cut corners on one of the positions we were targeting

If we went and got nothing but loans this summer, I'd be fine. I'm more interested in the quality of the players that Emery has at his disposal. If we use loans to get around our tight budgeting, then bravo to Raul, he's proven himself more capable than his beach shorts would suggest

According to many reports in Spain, we made an offer for Ceballos but it was deemed so low by Perez he offered to loan to us with no option to buy. We accepted that.

Claudius wrote:

There's nothing wrong with a loan deal if it includes an option that we are at liberty to exercise. If he comes and pulls up trees, then we sign him. If he's another Denis Suarez, then we ship him back

Kind of annoying not to get that option though.

Clrnc wrote:

According to many reports in Spain, we made an offer for Ceballos but it was deemed so low by Perez he offered to loan to us with no option to buy. We accepted that.

Lol. Gang that couldn’t shoot straight. Bullets, piss. Anything.

In the past we'd lowball and then not bother responding to the rejection, come back near the deadline and submit the exact same offer. I prefer this.

Claudius wrote:

Look. It’s a bird in the hand

Rather that than being caught with our pants down and our dicks in our hand.