DiabyKungFu

If it was one bad game then fair enough but Mart been on a downward spiral for over 12 months now.

Forget stylistically, players like him should be judged on goals and assists and it’s simply not good enough.

    The problem with Martinelli IMO is that he doesn't really 'see' and process the game, unlike the likes of Saka (and Sterling). He is not the most intelligent player, and he relies on intensity, instinct, unpredictability, and therefore on confidence. I am not sure how coachable he is as a result. He also has serious technical limitations from how one-footed he is on the dribble and how loose his touch is.

    That said, he can still be a useful player in our squad, and we need to maximize him and help him regain his confidence. Transfers can't solve everything, or at least not right away, and we have to use what we've got. He can be one of the best 5-6 forwards in a title-winning squad.

    If Martinelli's winning corners, he's doing a useful job for us. Emery specifically celebrated the fact Villa had held us down to only one corner after the match, but in part that's because Martinelli's execution was notably poor. In fact, his execution versus Villa was far poorer than it has been on the whole.

    Trossard also made the case for himself as a starter and this was touched on in his post-match interview. The press are now beating his comments up as having been "I should start". Truth is Trossard didn't say any such thing explicitly and was diplomatic, but his muted goal celebration together with all that tells its story clearly enough.

    Despite having a shocker against Villa, Martinelli is not "spiralling downward". His struggles to be effective have been roughly the same for a full season, they're not really getting worse or better. There are several causes:

    • Martinelli's limitations as a player.
    • His instructions, his place in our tactics, and the players and patterns he is contending with.
    • His confidence and form taking a hit from the way this has all dragged on, getting dropped, and so on.

    If Martinelli continues in rubbish form I would guess Arteta will drop him again and play Trossard. However, it's not going to be a pure upgrade. Martinelli actually does offer us qualities that Trossard doesn't: foot speed, width and defensive effort for example.

    Jesus meanwhile is injured yet again. Jesus, in my opinion, is the biggest liability among our strikers. He's burdening us with high wages, he is very regularly unavailable or recovering to his best physical shape and form, even at his best he underperforms the xG we produce around him, and he can't run out 90 minutes. He is a top player on his day but it's just not enough.

    Here's two things that may change the current dynamic:

    1. Merino coming in and playing left 8 (with Rice at 6) might help Martinelli out to some extent or change things up at least.
    2. Any worthwhile forward signing taking the focus off this issue.

    The real setback over the next week would be if this situation means we hang on to Nketiah. That'd be a bad mistake in my opinion.

    6 days later

    He really needs to step up to increase our chances of winning the league/finishing ahead of those robots.

    Let's face it, this guy is f*cking up our plan A right now. It appears to me we use our right side to build up/do all the creative stuff and then look to quickly release the player on the left, similar to how Leverkusen have their creative players on the left who often look to release the "runner" (Frimpong) on the right. I think this is how Mikel pictures our attack functioning but Martinelli's poor form has been forcing him to try something different with Trossard who, to be fair to him, has been delivering the goods, but we all know he doesn't represent plan A long-term.

    We need to add that transitional element to our attack for this team to realise its full potential. I don't know what to expect of Sterling after his inconsistent showing for Chelsea but if he recaptures the form he had in the early part of last season, then this role represents a path to him nailing down a spot in the team if Martinelli's poor form/lack of confidence continues.

    4 days later
    15 days later

    ive been johnny raincloud on martinelli for 2+ seasons. is anyone else willing to join me now? this guy isnt it, and until we upgrade his spot in the starting XI, we are going to pay for it

      This has been the worry for me he had a great breakthrough but even then had limitations in his game. The last season and start of this he's lost the impact and the question is was that first season just a good run and not really his level. At the moment he's not looking like a great attacking player for us.

      I've backed him for a year, think this was the last straw. It's a bit hard to watch a handful of our very few presentable chances get wasted with regularity due to his funk. Time to snap out of it or move on.

      lorddulaarsenal he has to really once fully match fit. Martinelli just isn't doing offensively in a team that's lost a big portion of attacking firepower.

      It's a shame because you feel if he gets a single goal it might unleash him from this funk but I'm not sure we're in a position where we can just play him into form right now.

      • Tam replied to this.

          Goals are not even my primary worry. He’s now unwilling (capable) to take on players too. Seems completely lost on how to fashion a chance and for whatever reason he always brings the ball to his left foot which is near useless.

            DiabyKungFu He did, 6 I think, and was good overall vs Spurs but still managed to fuck up a 1 vs 1 with the keeper, he has more then 6 of those in a row for sure, well into double digits. His problem is a big one I think, you know, the long forgotten stat, scoring goals.

            The way Arteta has been with players, the guy is done if he doesn't start scoring, and soon. We looked for a big signing this summer as well for his position, it was just not there. It is make or break for him, if he continues like this he will back to the bench in no time and then we will bring in someone else and good luck to him getting back into the team.

              Arteta likes a broad range of attributes. Martinelli is working hard every game. He’s also getting on the ball much more this season than last season. Dribbling, cutting into the box, taking shots. One hopes it pays off soon

              That 15 goal season was the exception.

              Poor dribbling, head-down running, no vision or creativity, no composure.