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Wilfried Zaha

Ricky1985

Would be fun to have a such a dangerous dribbler in the team.

Jed

Would be worth any fee just for the amount of pens he would win us

marv3llous

Are you having a laugh? We are not given penalties, in case you werent aware.

Ricky1985

VAR next season so hopefully we suffer less at the hands of incompetent and/or cheating referees.

marv3llous

Nah, VAR can still cheat us. Not reviewing the situations is the first thing they can do.

flobaba

Was that Mustafi’s highlight video or Zaha’s?

Klaus

Ricky1985 wrote:

Would be fun to have a such a dangerous dribbler in the team.

Some lovely twists and turns.

I'd forgotten the way he embarrassed Mustafi, probably because it happens so often nowadays.

Clrnc

Zaha singlehandedly costed us about 5 points last year and prolly the UCL. We should have whispered to his agent earlier before we play him so he could plan long term, or maybe he just didnt phantom how easy to attack Mustafi.

I think the VAR point is a great call. Imagine the amount of penalties Zaha will win for us next year. He won about 8 last year so probably twice that amount when you slow mo into a decision.

I wonder if 45m + Mustafi + Free 2 year Nelson loan (with an option to pay a fee for a callback) works for them. It will be an attractive proposition considering they need a CB and if they dont know how bad Mustafi is

mdgoonah41

Clrnc wrote:
Zaha singlehandedly costed us about 5 points last year and prolly the UCL. We should have whispered to his agent earlier before we play him so he could plan long term, or maybe he just didnt phantom how easy to attack Mustafi.

I think the VAR point is a great call. Imagine the amount of penalties Zaha will win for us next year. He won about 8 last year so probably twice that amount when you slow mo into a decision.

I wonder if 45m + Mustafi + Free 2 year Nelson loan (with an option to pay a fee for a callback) works for them. It will be an attractive proposition considering they need a CB and if they dont know how bad Mustafi is

and to add to the VAR point, think of how many penalties mustafi could give away with his clumsy defending when they have access to VAR. so, we should clear him out ASAP. this could be a net of +16 penalties for us

Jed

They won't take Mustafi. They're not idiots.

Daz

I think we need a player like Zaha, and I doubt we will be able to get a better player given our finances and lack of CL. Obviously we shouldn't spend stupid money, but given he also wants to come here, hopefully a fee plus player(s) deal could get this done.

Anzac

Well fuck me that changed in a hurry. Here I am saying there's been nothing doing and then I wake up to this and the thread has doubled in size. I'm still not convinced this is anything more than creating options based upon potential external factors such as MC getting banned & us gaining CL by default.

In answer to some of the posts there is no way I'd be letting Chambers go as he's both HG and a hybrid RB/CB/CM = convert him into an inverted WB as Bellerin will miss the start of the season.

In relation to VAR Zaha becomes a massive threat in the final 3rd, and was the most fouled player in the PL last season. As such then we shouldn't be looking to sell Laca.

Just wondering if Emery is looking at Zaha as a winger or as a forward in a 4123/wide 433.

Jed

Chambers a wing back? Seriously?

MuswellHillGooner

Anzac wrote:
Well fuck me that changed in a hurry. Here I am saying there's been nothing doing and then I wake up to this and the thread has doubled in size. I'm still not convinced this is anything more than creating options based upon potential external factors such as MC getting banned & us gaining CL by default.

In answer to some of the posts there is no way I'd be letting Chambers go as he's both HG and a hybrid RB/CB/CM = convert him into an inverted WB as Bellerin will miss the start of the season.

In relation to VAR Zaha becomes a massive threat in the final 3rd, and was the most fouled player in the PL last season. As such then we shouldn't be looking to sell Laca.

Just wondering if Emery is looking at Zaha as a winger or as a forward in a 4123/wide 433.

Well done for changing your position in a hurry.
Good to see you abandon your "poor first touch" and "Alexis lose-possession" guy stats and find the more relevant "most fouled player in the PL last season".
That's what you gain by actually watching as opposed to simply reading figures. Stats are useful but should always be secondary as you are able to see the reasons behind them. Even watch compilations like Ricky's above do not show the incredible number of clear fouls that are waved on because they occur so often and are simply ticked off as lost possession by the bean counters.
As for Chambers as a wingback in place of Bellerin, are you Arsene Wenger incognito?

BWoolley

Think this is a non-starter. In any case, I fear Zaha will make our team even worse technically and force us to convert to a purely counter-attacking outfit because we won't be able to hold on to the ball for more than 3 seconds. That's not a bad thing by itself, but Emery can't play that style (none of his teams have been largely counter-attacking). This is the biggest thing I don't like about Emery - the complete absence of a plan. By all accounts, he is the one pushing the case for Zaha, but I don't think he really fits into Emery's (or Arsenal's) pattern of play.

jones

How is Emery to blame for that? There are three people ahead of him in the hierarchy all which are supposed to be shaping the teams identity, philosophy and all that hot garbage. Emery is the head coach, hes said so himself more than once - why the need to pin everything on him when the guy whose job description entails what you talk about hasn't even arrived here yet.

Also some of his teams in the past (later Valencia teams with Soldado up front, Sevilla when they had Bacca and Rakitic) were clearly set up to counter especially in big games.

invisibleman18

Am I the only one who can't get excited about the prospect of adding to our line of Man United rejects?

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
I think the VAR point is a great call. Imagine the amount of penalties Zaha will win for us next year. He won about 8 last year so probably twice that amount when you slow mo into a decision.

If you consider we'll probably attack more than Palace too overall, so thats more fouls, plus VAR, then take into account that he'd be playing for Arsenal he could win us up to 3 penalties over the length of his contract

Tam

invisibleman18 wrote:
Am I the only one who can't get excited about the prospect of adding to our line of Man United rejects?

I'm totally underwhelmed by the thought of Zaha

Qwiss

I don't think we are likely to get any exciting signings this summer. Players like Zaha and Tierney are good solid signings if they happen but wont get the blood racing. Thats the situation we're in now. Players willing to move to Europa league teams tend to either be a massive gamble or a bit underwhelming. Its a miracle we got Auba when we did.

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