Why would Palace accept 40m though? No chance at all. We think he is worth around 40-55m but to Palace it's much more. He is singlehandedly the difference between relegation and staying up if you saw the impact of him in the team vs their win/loss ratio. He is too important for them to consider selling on a cheap and not to mention they manage to get 55m for a youth RB.

If our finances is managed properly past few years this transfer would have been easy peasy. He is probably the only one linked in the entire transfer window they might elevate us to a slightly higher level although his injury record will be a huge concern.

Clrnc wrote:

Why would Palace accept 40m though? No chance at all. We think he is worth around 40-55m but to Palace it's much more. He is singlehandedly the difference between relegation and staying up if you saw the impact of him in the team vs their win/loss ratio. He is too important for them to consider selling on a cheap and not to mention they manage to get 55m for a youth RB.

If our finances is managed properly past few years this transfer would have been easy peasy. He is probably the only one linked in the entire transfer window they might elevate us to a slightly higher level although his injury record will be a huge concern.

Which is fine. No agreement and we move on. Let's see who else is willing to pay £80m for Wilfried Zaha. I'd put a lot of money on no other club making that bid. 

As I said before, I think comparing it to the Wan Bissaka move is nonsense. 

If we spend more than 40- 50 mill on this, after all the talk of wisening up and beating the market then we’re the biggest fools in the history of the premier league.

Tam wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Why would Palace accept 40m though? No chance at all. We think he is worth around 40-55m but to Palace it's much more. He is singlehandedly the difference between relegation and staying up if you saw the impact of him in the team vs their win/loss ratio. He is too important for them to consider selling on a cheap and not to mention they manage to get 55m for a youth RB.

If our finances is managed properly past few years this transfer would have been easy peasy. He is probably the only one linked in the entire transfer window they might elevate us to a slightly higher level although his injury record will be a huge concern.

Which is fine. No agreement and we move on. Let's see who else is willing to pay £80m for Wilfried Zaha. I'd put a lot of money on no other club making that bid. 

As I said before, I think comparing it to the Wan Bissaka move is nonsense. 

Not comparing with it, but you would have thought nobody will be willing to pay 55m for him as well. Palace will be a tough nut to crack and we need every bit of strike Zaha can muster to have a chance. 

I think they will certainly bite at 55m-60m but I would rather take the chance to clear Elneny/Mustafi/Jenkinson etc. 

Clrnc, put yourself in Palace’s shoes. What are they going to do with Elneny, Mustafi, Jenkinson?

Clrnc wrote:
Tam wrote:

Which is fine. No agreement and we move on. Let's see who else is willing to pay £80m for Wilfried Zaha. I'd put a lot of money on no other club making that bid. 

As I said before, I think comparing it to the Wan Bissaka move is nonsense. 

Not comparing with it, but you would have thought nobody will be willing to pay 55m for him as well. Palace will be a tough nut to crack and we need every bit of strike Zaha can muster to have a chance. 

I think they will certainly bite at 55m-60m but I would rather take the chance to clear Elneny/Mustafi/Jenkinson etc. 

Well you are, aren't you? By mentioning him you're making Wan Bissaka part of the reasoning in the pricing for Zaha. 

If you thought nobody would be willing to pay £55m for him last week, why does it suddenly become the standard by which Zaha is priced? It just doesn't make sense. 

And for the record, I'm pretty certain no club other than United would have paid that for him either. 

You'd have thought they'd have learned their lesson from the Luke Shaw signing. Long may United overpay for players who have yet to prove themselves at the highest level.

Tam wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Why would Palace accept 40m though? No chance at all. We think he is worth around 40-55m but to Palace it's much more. He is singlehandedly the difference between relegation and staying up if you saw the impact of him in the team vs their win/loss ratio. He is too important for them to consider selling on a cheap and not to mention they manage to get 55m for a youth RB.

If our finances is managed properly past few years this transfer would have been easy peasy. He is probably the only one linked in the entire transfer window they might elevate us to a slightly higher level although his injury record will be a huge concern.

Which is fine. No agreement and we move on. Let's see who else is willing to pay £80m for Wilfried Zaha. I'd put a lot of money on no other club making that bid. 

As I said before, I think comparing it to the Wan Bissaka move is nonsense. 

Exactly. At £40mil+ range, we can find similar quality players outside PL. For £70-80mil, we can buy two players. Palace can fuck off.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

That wouldn't really be rational. If they had an amount that they deemed worth to sell a player for, raising that amount to 100m because they're mad would mean that if we bid 90m,they'd choose to keep Zaha instead of more money than they think he's worth to them. They're an organization, not a person,so irrationality like that shouldn't happen.

Sorry my bad, it's not 100m they want as they'd upped the price from 80m before we made the bid = they now want 120m.

Mate where do you read this horseshit?

Who wants 120? Barca for Dembele?

I can confirm the reports are true. Anzac is talking about me. I want 120m

I kinda want 120m as well. Would help me out a lot.

I think Anzac is talking about Palace, I read somewhere on twitter(shit link) that they are thinking at somewhere between 80-120 if that makes any sense.

I need a new yacht. One of those rigs with the helipad, disco and a pool. I have the best claim for the 120m

Claudius wrote:

I need a new yacht. One of those rigs with the helipad, disco and a pool. I have the best claim for the 120m

A 'new' yacht? What is it with this place and rich Africans ffs

I googled the £120m claim, apparently The Sun and one or two others are running with that claim. I think £40m is laughable for a player they bought for £6m after flopping at a big club a few years ago. He's progressed no doubt, and we've regressed as a club. But the world has gone mad.

They're trying to show they're wearing big boy pants.

I don't think so. The £120m claim is laughable and not reported by any credible sources, so I suspect it's nonsense from the likes of The Sun and The Daily Star rather than Palace's stance on the transfer.

Arsenal now leaking that if not Zaha, they will move on Brahimi. Hilarious the kind of games that get played through the press. The most sensible move for all parties here is for Arsenal to put that 40M into Cengiz Under and for Zaha to stay at Crystal Palace.

Or Ziyech, Malcom.
And then get a CM. And finish the defense deals. Sell Laca if necessary and get 2 AMs. Just get your hands out your pants

Palace do not want to sell so are taking the mickey.
If it were up to me, i would do the same by replacing the cash offer with a player exchange equivalent.
I would keep schtum while they talk shit to the tabloids knowing full well that Zaha will come back and kick a fuss from the inside.
He is not our only option and his age/high wages count against him as, like Mustafi, we would never be able to sell if it doesn't work out.

How do you go form £40m+ for Zaha to some nobody from Porto on a free?

I think it's Sanllehi playing the sort of transfer games we're not au fait with at Arsenal. We see this kind negotiating at the other big clubs all the time.

Saw these stats in this Sky Sports article:

I think a lack of a quality ball carrier and someone that can consistently beat his man one-v-one is one of our biggest failings. And why we look so blunt in certain games even when compared to teams that have much less quality than we have. We go whole games without getting a serious shot at goal, this has happened more and more in recent seasons. Even though we have two very good strikers on the pitch most of the time.

My two cents is that Zaha at Arsenal will be a much more productive and valuable player than Zaha at Crystal Palace. He will create space for good players to exploit, shake up opposition defences, and force defenders to make quick decisions and rash tackles. His final ball might even improve with better coaching, better strikers and in entering his prime years as a footballer.

Fuck Palace and Parish, get it done Arsenal.

Agreed. The more I think about it the more I want him, even over some of the more foreign outlandish wingers suggested.

If we manage to sign 2 proper wingers, we might actually be able to get away with no new CM signings. Go the Liverpool model, by pass the mid and give the ball to our wingers ASAP.

Agree, need this sort of directness.
And, Ricky, this links to the other thread. I believe Thuram is already sitting at 4 successful dribbles/90. He's basically doing half of what all of Arsenal does on his own and he's a raw kid.

I'm all for it if it doesn't eat up our entire budget. Others where you have more bang for buck and theres the injury concern but he'd definitely be a much needed threat on the wing

All we need now is his brother giving interviews how Parish is holding him hostage and Ricky assaulting him on Bond Street with a bruised banana kit

I'm starting to warm to the idea that Zaha could impact our attack in the way that Sterling did for Man city. The two are different levels of quality but a bit similar in so far as having polished their micro-second decision making from sufficient experience in the Prem. They're both comfortable down the left, both at ease as facilitators or off the shoulder recipients of the final action. He'd give an extra 10% wearing the shirt too.

All in all a shit circumstance given we once held on to Chamberlain and Gnabry 🙁

Based on all this, what do people think he's worth?

Claudius wrote:

Based on all this, what do people think he's worth?

Assuming if we have cash and based on current market inflation I wouldn't hesitate to throw 60m at him. 

£50m + Jenkinson is a fair offer.

Ray wrote:

£50m + Jenkinson is a fair offer.

LOL. Nobody wants Jenkinson. He needs to go to the Championship or SPL. 

Those figures are not fair as Zaha was the main man and the other 2 were bit-part players.
e: Not saying they are not impressive, mind!

To answer Claudius' question, my opinion on him remains the same.
I still think he is a £40m player tops as he will not have any resale value after 4/5 years and it would be in his interest to do a Flamini at the end of it.

Ziyech and Zaha as wingers would be exciting to watch, fund it through Laca and Ozil sales.

Claudius wrote:
Ray wrote:

£50m + Jenkinson is a fair offer.

LOL. Nobody wants Jenkinson. He needs to go to the Championship or SPL. 

That'd be fair enough. They're missing a right back now and after the deal they're going to the Championship

I'm immediately sceptical when a graphic like that uses numbers like that instead of per 90 minutes.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

I'm immediately sceptical when a graphic like that uses numbers like that instead of per 90 minutes.

I suspect half of footie fans don't think in PERs.