Tam wrote:Daily Record reporting that we’re now ready to walk away. Apparently aren’t willing to pay the vast majority up front as Celtic would like us to. Think he’d have been a good signing but the price is getting a bit ridiculous.
feels like we're just posturing to get them to accept a payment schedule that is better for us. i doubt we'd have made 3 offers if we weren't willing to get this done.
Yeah perhaps. Celtic aren’t getting a £20m+ offer from anyone else. This is the best they’ll get. They’ll know they need to sell him eventually, I wonder if they’re willing to take that £5-10m hit on the top price to save face here.
That's pretty disappointing. I don't there's gonna be a better LB we can sign this summer.
Celtic starting to look a bit stupid here. I'm still afraid of this kid's injury issues, what other LBs are out there?
We’ll sign him
"debilitating osteitis pubis problem"
https://ihealthmama.com/osteitis-pubis/
Yikes!
So what now , who else can we go for ? Gaya? Ghoulam ( not sure if still injured ) ? Bertrand?
Wouldn't go for any of those.
Tam wrote:Yeah perhaps. Celtic aren’t getting a £20m+ offer from anyone else. This is the best they’ll get. They’ll know they need to sell him eventually, I wonder if they’re willing to take that £5-10m hit on the top price to save face here.
Even though our need is greater than theirs, we both lose as this is the second time they have denied him a move and he must be envious of Robertson at this stage. The worry i have is the word "debilitating" in the description of that injury if it means it's going to get worse with time.
As for Celtic, i used to like them from the days Rangers used to slap them around in the 90s and even more after Gazza went over. A lot of my goodwill towards them evaporated 10 years ago after the furore they caused when we knocked them out of the Champions League so i'm happy to say fuck-em.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/aug/27/arsenal-champions-league-celtic
They're a bunch of overly indignant pricks but I'll always have a soft spot for 'em.
If i'm honest, i still like them (though not as much as previously) as i was fully behind their amazing treble treble achievement.
technically we've spent very little so far. 5m installment for saliba, small loan fee for ceballos possibly. and we've brought in 3-4m from bennacer being sold
the club really do seem to be walking that tight rope in an attempt to land all the number 1 targets
as an aside, the citizen journalism on reddit is off the charts. cornering arsenal staff and asking about transfers. washington gooners all think they're ornstein now 
Wonder if our inability to move players (El Neny, Chambers, etc.) has hampered our ability to pay up front. We probably came in with a weak first bid, tried to increase it second/third time around, but don't have the financial weight to do it as we're in limbo.
change focus to a bees knees CB, and limp along with kola and nacho
No, we can't, not good enough. I hope this still happens.
Though we definitely need a CB.
Bold Tone wrote:Even though our need is greater than theirs, we both lose as this is the second time they have denied him a move and he must be envious of Robertson at this stage. The worry i have is the word "debilitating" in the description of that injury if it means it's going to get worse with time.
As for Celtic, i used to like them from the days Rangers used to slap them around in the 90s and even more after Gazza went over. A lot of my goodwill towards them evaporated 10 years ago after the furore they caused when we knocked them out of the Champions League so i'm happy to say fuck-em.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/aug/27/arsenal-champions-league-celtic
It’s not the second time they’ve denied him a move, he had no intention of moving to Everton last year.
I wasn’t worried about his injury history before, but this reoccurrence of the long standing issue is something that makes me a bit more apprehensive about the signing. He played on through it but really struggled last season. I wonder if that’s a big factor in the decision to withdraw too.
Celtic would have happily taken the money and structure we offered if there was a serious concern about injuries.
That's exactly what they want us to think!
I saw Tierney himself say in a press conference about 2 weeks before the Scottish cup final that the hernia was causing the other problem and that the operation on the hernia would fix everything.
I genuinely believe this whole saga has been an attempt by Celtic at controlling the narrative in order to stop a backlash from the fans that could derail their Champions League qualifiers and possibly even the domestic football after that.
Some of the things Lennon and his buddy in the press have come out with are just baffling. They clearly want the money and want to sell. Otherwise why run stories that talk up a potential bid? What's there to gain for a Scottish Sun reporter that plays 5-aside football with Neil Lennon once a week to stir that particular pot? And who is Lennon speaking to when he says Tierney has a debilitating injury problem still ongoing? Arsenal? "Okay, cheers, Neil. Thanks for that vital information, we'd like £10m knocked off the asking price now please or we'll move on". Or is it much more likely he's talking to the Celtic fans? Trying to stage manage their reaction to losing their best player and golden boy.
I'm not saying they aren't after a good deal and negotiations are ongoing. But they've already gone out and bought a starting left back to replace Tierney, and splashed an unusually high amount by their standards on a centreback.
It all smells very fishy from where I stand.
Agreed. They gambled on a bidding war which never materialised so final deal will probably be for something less than what the papers report.
