Top 4 has to be the minimum target.

Bar something extraordinary I don't think we should extend with him regardless of whether we make top 4, win Europa League, etc. Those are achievable goals for any good manager. Wenger at this absolute worst in his 22 year tenure almost knocked out last year's EL winners in the semi, and we didn't face anyone remotely as good as Atletico this year. We'll be thereabouts next year too regardless of who's in charge.

We need bigger ideas about how we want to play football and we need to value creative traits much more than we currently do. I worry a lot that we're just going to keep assembling a functional but technically deficient squad without any guiding vision that emphasises good, entertaining football.

Champions League qualification

if he gets top 4 AND displays a strong vision of where our football going then is keep him. If we broadly play the same as this season but still eke out 4th, I'd strongly consider moving him on

Klaus wrote:

Bar something extraordinary I don't think we should extend with him regardless of whether we make top 4, win Europa League, etc. Those are achievable goals for any good manager. Wenger at this absolute worst in his 22 year tenure almost knocked out last year's EL winners in the semi, and we didn't face anyone remotely as good as Atletico this year. We'll be thereabouts next year too regardless of who's in charge.

We need bigger ideas about how we want to play football and we need to value creative traits much more than we currently do. I worry a lot that we're just going to keep assembling a functional but technically deficient squad without any guiding vision that emphasises good, entertaining football.

I think I’m in this boat for now as well.

Our recruiting strategy going forward has to reflect the type of team we want to be, and the sort of football we are looking to play though.

1. He has to push the club to gut the squad.

2. He has to sign 4 or 5 very good players.

3. He has to integrate those players into a functioning system that produces consistent results and attractive, attacking football.

Blimey, is it only a 2yr deal?

I’m with Klaus, I just want to see clear progress on the pitch, by the end of next season I want to know that we’re building towards something, I want to be able to see what the big picture is going to end up looking like. If we do that, the results will come regardless.

I also want to see him being much, much bolder and ruthless and less pragmatic.

The minimum should be to achieve the aims & goals that he was hired to achieve.
If that was to regain CL this season then he should go now.
Even if it was a 2 year plan there should be measurable KPIs & KERs to ensure we are on the right track towards those aims and objectives.

goon wrote:

Blimey, is it only a 2yr deal?

I’m with Klaus, I just want to see clear progress on the pitch, by the end of next season I want to know that we’re building towards something, I want to be able to see what the big picture is going to end up looking like. If we do that, the results will come regardless.

I also want to see him being much, much bolder and ruthless and less pragmatic.

I want to see him hurl himself into the River Thames while screaming "Arsene Wenger is my daddy" in Spanglish.
Edit: Live on ArsenalFanTV

Who cares about results or style of play, I just want to see Diaby KungFu banned when next season starts. What is this place, the Arsenal Mania lobby?

Next season we ought to qualify for the CL if he wants to keep his job. 

There are fringe scenarios, of course, where he might earn another year if we drastically improve from this season and get, say, 80+ points but fail to qualify 'cause it's a freak season.

If it were a repeat of this season we would probably be better off starting anew.

Attacking football, and youth integration.

This season has been a total waste of everyone’s time

The sad part is, guaranteed next season we will be having this discussion again instead of being proactive and getting rid of him.

This season was always going to be the start of our transformation, so I didn't have any expectations beyond improving our League position. He was brought in to get us back into the top four within two years - that has always been the primary objective. If he achieves that next year, I'd give him an extension. It's that simple for me.

People will understandably talk about aesthetics, an identity (etc.)...but for me, that's a luxury at this point in time. Let's get us back where we need to be to generate significant £ in order to build towards a title charge first.

Get 4th, concede less, win away more, sell or at least drop all the useless hasbeens.

I'm surprised how high you guys are setting the bar.
If we had managed to get CL football, i would've had more hope.
The rebuilding process still has to go through the disassembly (getting rid of high earners) stage so we may end up a couple of steps back before we move forward. That will only happen after we get rid of the poor performing high earners Ozil/Mkhi/Mustafi (June, 2021) and Xhaka (June, 2023).

I find myself agreeing with the below article
[size=x-small]" ... , that building project, will feel as far away as ever in the wake of this shattering defeat. Chelsea were supposed to be the crisis club, the ones going into this final amid uncertainty. But they still shrugged it all off to win. Arsenal could not take advantage. And now they are condemned to starting next season from a position of huge disadvantage."[/size]
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11731272/arsenal8217s-europa-league-final-woe-undermines-unai-emerys-rebuild?

To me he has failed this season. Utterly failed. Very little positives to find.

Even if he finished top 4 next season I'm not convinced by him. It would take something like winning like 2 of the cups and finishing 3rd for me to have hope about Emery on the long run.

Have to see what we do in the transfer market.

If we are stuck with a shit squad, then even if we sack him and get someone else in, we will still have a shit squad.

I think as a club, it is absolutely vital that we get this summer right and secure Champions League football, otherwise we will be in trouble.

United are going to waste another year on Solskjaer, while Chelsea will lose Hazard and suffer a transfer ban.

If we miss out again, I fear we'll be locked out of the top 4.