Gurgen wrote:

If we're going to analyse every decision in order to feel 'robbed', please remember that Xhaka should have been off in the first half.

For what exactly?

GooneriC wrote:

I think with VAR Spurs wouldn't get a penalty. Offside would be called. It's annoying , we have really had some howlers given against us in recent years as well as stonewall penalties denied.

Spurs are fucked when VAR comes in. They get far more decisions than most sides.

Qwiss! wrote:

GooneriC wrote:

I think with VAR Spurs wouldn't get a penalty. Offside would be called. It's annoying , we have really had some howlers given against us in recent years as well as stonewall penalties denied.

Spurs are fucked when VAR comes in. They get far more decisions than most sides.

LFC are in the same boat in that they get a lot of penalty calls going their way.

Qwiss! wrote:

Gurgen wrote:

If we're going to analyse every decision in order to feel 'robbed', please remember that Xhaka should have been off in the first half.

For what exactly?

I presume he means the tackle from behind on Kane but it wasn't a red card offense, and atm I don't recall any other major incident in the half, and he didn't get booked until the 2nd half.

Anzac wrote:

I presume he means the tackle from behind on Kane but it wasn't a red card offense

Of course it wasn't. Just anything to try and bash Arsenal.

Anzac wrote:

LFC are in the same boat in that they get a lot of penalty calls going their way.

Definitely.

Has Mustafi come out and apologised on social media?

I wouldn't get my hopes up regarding VAR. The people who'll be sitting in front of the screens are the same PGMO pricks who ruin games on the pitch and block any move to rectify any of it off it.

I'm seeing it every week in the Bundesliga, "smaller" poor calls still will at times be reviewed and not corrected because they weren't poor enough and worst of all with some big game changing ones you're left scratching your head why none of the seven eight video refs brings it to the main guy's attention

Then you have VAR in Italy which is the other extreme where a goal is disallowed because a minute earlier on the other end of the pitch a shoulder barge is retrospectively deemed too excessive. And since the EPL is easily the worst officiated league in Europe I'm confident the FA's application of VAR will somehow be the worst of all worlds

Qwiss! wrote:

Anzac wrote:

I presume he means the tackle from behind on Kane but it wasn't a red card offense

Of course it wasn't. Just anything to try and bash Arsenal.

Trust our bunch to piss on our own after a game like yesterday. We dont even need opposition fans for that. Embarrassing

Poshitinho was whining about it in the post match

Big Willie wrote:

Claudius wrote:

• Our penalty - the decision also looked marginal. But what a waste. Slow and narrow. In fairness, he’d scored 4 of his previous 5.

This is is for me. He may have scored 4 of his last five but I was never confident of him scoring. I was dreading him taking it even before he stepped up and they showed the graphic of his previous attempts. Seeing the graphic made me realise just how bad they had been previously and that it wasn't just my imagination. All taken really narrow and not even close to the corner.

He also doesn't ever hit it with power either on any of the penalties he's taken for us. He's a good finishes but not a good penalty taker. Then again I don't know who would have taken a proper penalty for us out of those remaning on the pitch at that point.

That's faulty analysis. You're omitting the fact that Aubameyang's method is to keep his eyes fixed on the goalkeeper and if/when he moves then to hit a low risk shot (i.e., not near the post or with much power) to the open side.

He is generally pretty good at it - as his record shows. It takes balls of steel in the big moments though because you're effectively playing a game of chicken with the goalkeeper. If he stands up and doesn't move, like Lloris yesterday, you've impaired your ability to hit it powerfully and accurately to one of the corners. Although, with a clear mind that is what should be done - see Eden Hazard, who has the same technique but never misses because he hits the corners hard when he has too, even in big pressure moments.

Aubameyang's bottle failed him a little yesterday. Unfortunately I won't be able to forget it in a hurry, but it happens. And it's commendable that he grabbed the ball and took responsibility in the first place.

jones wrote:

I wouldn't get my hopes up regarding VAR. The people who'll be sitting in front of the screens are the same PGMO pricks who ruin games on the pitch and block any move to rectify any of it off it.

I'm seeing it every week in the Bundesliga, "smaller" poor calls still will at times be reviewed and not corrected because they weren't poor enough and worst of all with some big game changing ones you're left scratching your head why none of the seven eight video refs brings it to the main guy's attention

Then you have VAR in Italy which is the other extreme where a goal is disallowed because a minute earlier on the other end of the pitch a shoulder barge is retrospectively deemed too excessive. And since the EPL is easily the worst officiated league in Europe I'm confident the FA's application of VAR will somehow be the worst of all worlds

This is my fear too although tbf the Bundesliga application hasn't been terrible. What I don't understand is that it should be straightforward to set up the parameters for when and how VAR should be applied. Perhaps a referral system ala field hockey would be best.

Qwiss! wrote:

Gurgen wrote:

If we're going to analyse every decision in order to feel 'robbed', please remember that Xhaka should have been off in the first half.

For what exactly?

Studs in someone's calf, which in normal countries is a red but even in England a yellow, followed by pulling back a player a few minutes later, which is a yellow everywhere.

Ricky1985 wrote:

Big Willie wrote:

This is is for me. He may have scored 4 of his last five but I was never confident of him scoring. I was dreading him taking it even before he stepped up and they showed the graphic of his previous attempts. Seeing the graphic made me realise just how bad they had been previously and that it wasn't just my imagination. All taken really narrow and not even close to the corner.

He also doesn't ever hit it with power either on any of the penalties he's taken for us. He's a good finishes but not a good penalty taker. Then again I don't know who would have taken a proper penalty for us out of those remaning on the pitch at that point.

That's faulty analysis. You're omitting the fact that Aubameyang's method is to keep his eyes fixed on the goalkeeper and if/when he moves then to hit a low risk shot (i.e., not near the post or with much power) to the open side.

He is generally pretty good at it - as his record shows. It takes balls of steel in the big moments though because you're effectively playing a game of chicken with the goalkeeper. If he stands up and doesn't move, like Lloris yesterday, you've impaired your ability to hit it powerfully and accurately to one of the corners. Although, with a clear mind that is what should be done - see Eden Hazard, who has the same technique but never misses because he hits the corners hard when he has too, even in big pressure moments.

Aubameyang's bottle failed him a little yesterday. Unfortunately I won't be able to forget it in a hurry, but it happens. And it's commendable that he grabbed the ball and took responsibility in the first place.

I really don't care much more for the analysis than what I see when he takes the penalty, but either way it still shows that his style of penalty taking gives a big opportunity for it to be saved. Before I even saw the graphic I had a feeling it would be saved. Not missed, but saved because he doesn't stutter his run to trick the keeper, he doesn't hit it hard enough to beat the keeper by sheer power nor does he place it so well that the keeper would be unable to reach it.

Anyways I just checked up his record and he's scored 17 out of 24 penalties during his club career with his overall record slightly improved through his international record of 6 out of 6. For us he's scored 3 and missed 2.

Some people just aren't great penalty takers. Doesn't detract from the rest of his game. I don't really want to dwell on this because he's a a quality goalscorer even despite his penalty technique not being the best. It happens.

Penalties should be hit so that they will likely go in even if the goalie goes the right way. That's just my opinion.

Still can't believe the amount of chances we blew in the 2nd half to win this match. This is the worst draw ever, hurts so badly.

I am still angry at the officiating but it happens, not like it's a total farce or what. The fact is we are given a huge stroke of luck to win it and missed it in the final moment, absolutely hurts.

Just imagine if we miss the top 4 by 2 points...

Clrnc wrote:

Still can't believe the amount of chances we blew in the 2nd half to win this match. This is the worst draw ever, hurts so badly.

I am still angry at the officiating but it happens, not like it's a total farce or what. The fact is we are given a huge stroke of luck to win it and missed it in the final moment, absolutely hurts.

Just imagine if we miss the top 4 by 2 points...

True, but much as it hurts, if we do miss top 4 by 2 points we need to look more at results like our draws against Palace, Brighton and Wolves as well as our losses to the likes of Southampton and West Ham. Those really did us (maybe allowinv the Wolves result as they were pretty good earlier in the season). A draw at Spurs isn't the end of the world. We just need to make sure to make our results against the smaller teams and at home to our rivals count.

as soon as i saw their midfield i knew we'd give them problems. a wanyama-sissoko axis is completely lacking in creativity especially with rambo chasing back and harrying them, and it left their attackers short on supply. we forced rose and trippier to beat us. it was a job well done