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arsedocmd

Jens wrote:
Anything but overtime, I gotta be up in a few hours.

Lol no dice

Jens

Coombs wrote:
Ridiculous to be offside there. Almost believe he was paid off to do it. So dense. Could've been the game.

If not for that silly penalty thats probably the last thing we see from Gronk, that ball slipping through his fingers.

Jens

Patriots win the toss.

Jens

Brady, Edelman and Gronk making it happen in the clutch. What else is new.

Coombs

Lucky fucks.

Bryant

Death, Taxes, and Brady going to the Super Bowl.

Bold Tone

Apparently the Rams have history with this head ref.
Remove Bill Vinovich from the NFC Championship game
https://www.change.org/p/roger-goodell-remove-bill-vinovich-from-the-nfc-championship-game

arsedocmd

https://www.newsweek.com/child-wins-science-fair-proving-tom-brady-cheated-using-deflated-footballs-1304644?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter

Jens

To be fair the article merely proved deflated footballs travel further in the air, not that Brady's footballs were deflated that day against the Colts (they more than likely were.)

Claudius

For those well versed in football, did Stan manage his way to the Super Bowl or is this a cyclical thing?

Jens

Very much a cyclical thing, the Rams had a long stretch of mediocre to terrible results and with that comes good draft picks which in turn will yield good players. Combined with a strict salary cap this makes for a system of parity where no team should be down in the dumps for years on end. Of course the same is true for the top end teams which is why the Patriots dynasty is so revered having picked late in the draft for twenty straight years.

Sean McVeigh the Rams young head coach has taken the league by storm and deserves the bulk of the credit for the Rams success. Kroenke has nothing to do with it, unless you wanna make the claim that moving to LA had anything with the teams resurgence, which I doubt.

Claudius

Thanks. That’s what I assumed given the structure of the NFL. I’m quite familiar with his basketball exploits. He should be banned from sports outside the NFL. He takes fans’ aspirations hostage.

Bryant

Jens wrote:
Very much a cyclical thing, the Rams had a long stretch of mediocre to terrible results and with that comes good draft picks which in turn will yield good players. Combined with a strict salary cap this makes for a system of parity where no team should be down in the dumps for years on end. Of course the same is true for the top end teams which is why the Patriots dynasty is so revered having picked late in the draft for twenty straight years.

Sean McVeigh the Rams young head coach has taken the league by storm and deserves the bulk of the credit for the Rams success. Kroenke has nothing to do with it, unless you wanna make the claim that moving to LA had anything with the teams resurgence, which I doubt.

I wouldn't say it's cyclical....for now. If you find the right coach and QB combo (like Brady and Belichick), success can last an eternity. This Super Bowl will be interesting as Brady and Belichick rose to prominence after beating the favored Rams and the greatest show on turf in 2002. It might be the same for the Rams if they can win.

I think that Kroenke has better personnel running his NFL and NBA teams at the moment. It took massive guts to hire a 30 year old to be a head coach. People laughed at that decision and how he was younger than some of the players on their team. Who knows how much input Kroenke puts into hiring coaches, but the general manager of the Rams has done a great job in making signings to increase the team's talent to compete while Jared Goff's (the QB) contract is cheap.

His "NBA team" (son actually owns it now) is 2nd place in the Western Conference. I don't think they're bad?

Claudius

I’m talking historically on the Nuggets. I’ve followed them a long time. Contrast with another small market Western Conference team like San Antonio that has consistently competed for the past 20 odd years.

Bryant

Claudius wrote:
I’m talking historically on the Nuggets. I’ve followed them a long time. Contrast with another small market Western Conference team like San Antonio that has consistently competed for the past 20 odd years.

Ah okay. Spurs are lucky that they found Coach Pop. I think the NBA is way more talent driven compared to the NFL. We've rarely seen less talented teams win titles. It's no coincidence that the Warriors are always the favorites now.

Claudius

Yeah. In the NBA you need the right collection of a good coach, 1-2 great players, and a GM (+ team) that can flesh out the rest of the squad. The Spurs had once piece of luck long ago - an injury that felled their star player for an entire season,, allowing them to add another star; but other than that it’s been the other two legs hard at work. They’ve always done an incredible job of filling out the teams with complementary talent pieces.

But you’re right that given the superstar focused nature of the game, if you have a concentration of selfless stars together, you instantly become very hard to beat.

Jens

Bryant wrote:
I wouldn't say it's cyclical....for now. If you find the right coach and QB combo (like Brady and Belichick), success can last an eternity. This Super Bowl will be interesting as Brady and Belichick rose to prominence after beating the favored Rams and the greatest show on turf in 2002. It might be the same for the Rams if they can win.

I think that Kroenke has better personnel running his NFL and NBA teams at the moment. It took massive guts to hire a 30 year old to be a head coach. People laughed at that decision and how he was younger than some of the players on their team. Who knows how much input Kroenke puts into hiring coaches, but the general manager of the Rams has done a great job in making signings to increase the team's talent to compete while Jared Goff's (the QB) contract is cheap.

His "NBA team" (son actually owns it now) is 2nd place in the Western Conference. I don't think they're bad?

Well the Patriots is the outlier. They have had continued success because of a historically great coach and QB. That's not something likely to be replicated ever again. Through continued early draft picks however, any franchise no matter how poorly run will hit a point where there's just too much talent on the roster and you start winning. Like the Browns this year.

flobaba

I still remember the first time I saw the word. In my mind I pronounced it “greedyrun”

arsedocmd

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-soliciting-prostitution-n974611?fbclid=IwAR0kurDFdyaECNaIs7SRQs0sR1Le-VYjgamNsBgZnQzCNpHPGNjL3_4Tgng

must be very deflating for the patriots

Bryant

What a freak athlete.

To put his speed in perspective, he ran a faster time than Odell Beckham Jr. (4.43).

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