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Last 16: France vs Argentina, Saturday 30th June

banduan

ffffooook what an ending.

Proof

Mbappe is a good player but he's ridiculously overrated.

est

Proof wrote:
Mbappe is a good player but he's ridiculously overrated.

How is he overrated?

He's 19.

Irishgunner

Classic match that I think

Narrative, drama, big players, great goals.

banduan

est wrote:
Proof wrote:
Mbappe is a good player but he's ridiculously overrated.

How is he overrated?

He's 19.

He's overrated in the sense that he's now the second coming of Henry in the WC without having done anything quite so Henry.

Gunner89

Mbappe is a sensational talent.

He'd have been better off going to a team that would hone his talent.

He's being shunted to the wing and playing second fiddle to neymar and cavani at psg.

Irishgunner

Proof wrote:
Mbappe is a good player but he's ridiculously overrated.

He's guaranteed to win a ballon d'or, the kid is incredibly talented. He's 19.

Tactics

Bold Tone wrote:
This French side is a big threat.
Giroud is the only weak point.

Deschamps seems to be incapable of setting his team up without a target man, it reminds me of a time when we couldn't play without Giroud. Thank God that's no longer the case!

But even if he has to play a target man, France have a player in Benzema who doesn't only have a better hold up play than Giroud but is capable of much more. He's probably the best link/target man in Europe

Gunner89

banduan wrote:
est wrote:
How is he overrated?

He's 19.

He's overrated in the sense that he's now the second coming of Henry in the WC without having done anything quite so Henry.

[size=medium]Mbappe has been breaking records since bursting onto the scene with Monaco in 2015-16 to become the most youthful debutant and goalscorer in the club's history, beating Thierry Henry's record.[/size]

Burnwinter

That was such a great football match. Tremendously satisfying. Wish it'd somehow gone to 4-4 in those last few seconds.

Big Willie

Burnwinter wrote:
That was such a great football match. Tremendously satisfying. Wish it'd somehow gone to 4-4 in those last few seconds.

Same. Much as I wanted Argentina out, I wanted the game to go to extra time. Breathtaking stuff.

est

Gunner89 wrote:
banduan wrote:
He's overrated in the sense that he's now the second coming of Henry in the WC without having done anything quite so Henry.

[size=medium]Mbappe has been breaking records since bursting onto the scene with Monaco in 2015-16 to become the most youthful debutant and goalscorer in the club's history, beating Thierry Henry's record.[/size]

Yep, he's been the second coming of Henry for a long time now.

Was Messi overrated when he was compared to Maradona when he was 18-19? I don't think so.

Ricky1985

Mbappé can become something so special. So gutted we couldn't have got him to Arsenal somehow.

All in all, a fun game to watch, but the quality, a couple of great strikes aside, was poor.

France's midfield were dominated early on before Argentina's legs went, but it suited them to play on the break. I think Drogba is talking rubbish about Pogba; I thought he was very average, two or three moments of quality aside.

Feel sorry for Messi, but what can he do? The team he was in was a shambles.

arsedocmd

Just poor defensively from Argentina.

arsedocmd

Now if somebody can go sign banega fir us.

Bold Tone

Tactics wrote:
Bold Tone wrote:
This French side is a big threat.
Giroud is the only weak point.

Deschamps seems to be incapable of setting his team up without a target man, it reminds me of a time when we couldn't play without Giroud. Thank God that's no longer the case!

But even if he has to play a target man, France have a player in Benzema who doesn't only have a better hold up play than Giroud but is capable of much more. He's probably the best link/target man in Europe

[font=Source Sans Pro]Watching him not huff and puff while running in treacle or flicking balls to no one, thank God indeed.[/font]
[font=Source Sans Pro]After me saying this, he will probably end up being the hero as they win the whole thing.[/font]

Claudius

What a game. France has some incredible players and they came to play today - Mbappe, Griezmann, Pavard, Pogba, Matuidi. Mbappe/Mmmmmbopp to you Hanson fans is a true gem. His finishing and acceleration were on show today. He didn’t show off his close ball control as much as he did in group stage games. I woul’dve mortgaged Arsenal for him last year.

As for Aregentina, their talisman played well. They lost. But I guess tomorrow I’ll open the papers to read that he’s achieved naught with his life.

Gurgen

Too bad. I really wanted Messi to win this world cup so we would be rid of that moron Maradona and that clown Ronaldo for all eternity.

France are such an awful team. All that talent and no drive whatsoever to play an attacking game. Hope they crash and burn.

Klaus

Claudius wrote:
As for Aregentina, their talisman played well. They lost. But I guess tomorrow I’ll open the papers to read that he’s achieved naught with his life.

😆

I reckon it's the way people keep looking for a narrative in every big event. Sports journalism carries a huge Hunter S Thompson complex. Everything has to fit neatly into a story with some psychoanalysis and baseless assumptions on top.

You saw it with the way they bigged up Ronaldo in the Euros, even though he was mediocre throughout the tournament and Portugal won the whole thing without him. He shouted a bit from the sideline in the final though which turns into "he was practically coaching the team", which turns into "Ronaldo is such a born winner that he doesn't even need to be on the pitch to win it".

In reality football is 22 players on a pitch, and what the other 21 are doing is always going to impact the one. Sampaoli had as good players as anyone in this World Cup, and he blew the last chance for one of the all time greats to win it. That's the real story here. Everything else is just background noise.

Coombs

Messi could play in another. It's not unfathomable.

The state of the team was Sampaoli's fault, for sure, but that move from France with Giroud's pass and Mbappe's finish was more than worthy of winning the match.

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