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The new guy - Wengs replacement

Jed

Winning mentality
Master Tactician
Good football
Defensive organisation
Trophy winning pedigree

Get Allegri and be done with it

Don Pacifico

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43848651

Vieira rules himself out. Good man.

jones

I've been thinking about it. Simeone will see the Arsenal stadium and team for the first side when we'll kick them out the EL, the fans will make more noise than ever for the current manager tricking him into believing this is the normal level of noise at the Emirates

Honestly as big as I am on Sarri Jardim or Tuchel none have even remotely the pedigree of Don Diego. He's won almost everything with an Everton sized budget. Leicesters title win was the craziest feat in football in recent memory but Atletico winning the title against Barcelona and Madrid is the greatest managerial achievement ever imo, no cup magic needed for that (would've been a double with more luck!) just a manager getting a squad with loads of limitations to run through walls for him like rabid dogs. not like they don't know how to play either, anyone who thinks they can't has likely never seen Atletico play any game outside CL or against the big two.

Imagine Profe Ortega working his magic on our bunch. Half of them would probably ask for transfers elsewhere. The likes of Ramsey or Elneny would undoubtedly make a huge step forward though

Claudius

Bellerin would make the biggest step forward. Possibly Mustafi and Kolasinac along with the guys you mentioned. He has to be a candidate. Winning has to be the primary objective now. Everything else is secondary. Of course the coach must not be an ass like Jose

jones

Mustafi is almost tailor made to become world class under Simeone. Has a lot of aggression and the physical attributes are all there

Godin is a world class centre back now but few remember he was a decent sweeper at Villarreal who was carried for the bigger part of his time there by Gonzalo Rodriguez who was good but never great himself. It's only after his second season at Atletico that he slowly became possibly the best defender of this decade. Kolasinac and Bellerin likewise, if you can turn an average winger from Osasuna into one of Europe's best full backs you probably won't struggle with our underperforming pair either

Mirth

Do you think that would mean Ozil gets marginalised?

flobaba

Definitely. He’s not a Simeone type player

Tactics

Simeone got the best out of Arda Turan at Atletico, don't think Ozil would be marginalised just because he's a ball player and not a player known for his hard work

Mirth

True, and I mean no one's got anything out of Turan either before or since.

flobaba

Good point

jones

Turan was actually a very hard worker when he was at Atletico. Not sure why his workrate went South so fast, started at Barcelona but apparently him not wanting to track back anymore was part of the reason he left in the first place

Bold Tone

Even though i hope we win every game from now till the end of the season, i think the poorer Wenger performs, the easier it would be for the new guy to change the culture. However, i'm pretty sure it's going to take more than a few years before radically change occurs even if we recruit a world class manager and are going to go through the same type of turbulence chelsea, city, manu and pool have been through recently with no guarantee of success.

lorddulaarsenal

http://dailycannon.com/2018/04/ancelotti-if-arsenal-were-interested-it-would-give-me-pleasure/

Tempting to have Pirlo around the club

Will be underwhelming when Eddie Howe is given the job

lorddulaarsenal

I think it will be Luis Enrique

Ticks too many boxes

flobaba

Not sure about Enrique.

Doesn’t seem like he stays anywhere for too long. Stir crazy.

Also his stint at Roma was quite underwhelming

Claudius

Low-hanging fruit. Out of work, relationship with Raul. Achievable well before the summer. Would not be a train smash, but would also not be the ultimate. But better than Lowe or Howe

Coombs

It makes a whole lot of sense, and I really think his emphasis on discipline, work rate, and conditioning might be just what our boys need.

jones

I'd honestly pick Löw over Enrique, and I really don't want Löw.

Claudius

Lowe has been in semi retirement for over a decade. Neither is ideal. I would rather even Rodgers and an envelope with Xhaka’s name in it.

Clrnc

Luis Enrique is a big no no to me. Very underwhelming and average coach.

Here are the only acceptable candidates for me in this order:

1) Allegri - Tactically too good, and has proven track record. Pragmatic but not dull football
2) Conte - If available we must at least consider him, similar to the pros of Allegri
3) Jardim - Attractive football, blood young players, good big game record
4) Simeone - Can't look past him surely, very pragmatic football but a born winner
5) Sarri - Best brand of football in europe, but question marks over his ability to win trophies yet.
6) Marcelinho - Impressive with Villarreal and Valencia

The rest are all gambles, and if we are taking big gambles for big strides, then these are the only acceptable ones

1) Nagelsmann
2) Di Francesco - Bring over Allison and Manolas as well
3) Fonseca - Very very impressive work with Shakhtar
4) Rui Vitoria - Done very well with a young Benfica team, almost made the semis of UCL 2 years ago
5) Sergio Conceicao - another attacking coach, fantastic with Nantes last year and doing very well with Porto currently
6) Quique Setien - The Anti Simeone, 2nd most attractive football behind Sarri but his teams might be far too open. Leading Betis to their best ever finish in decades
7) Marco Silva - shouldn't forget the impressive work he has done with Hull and Watford

Tuchel is really a good fit but has signed for PSG. Not sure about Tedesco, haven't watched Schalke enough maybe Jones have a better idea. Ex players like Henry, Arteta, Vieira all has little experience of a big club and I wouldn't want another dinosaur coaching us. Main priority must be relatively young and plays progressive football

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