Meh. If Dortmund insist on 65m then leave them in their messy situation. No way he's worth that considering his age and his unwillingness to stay.

Would rather spend the money on a new GK and a new top class midfielder.

Closely following a football club is often very neat.

Other times it feels like you are in an abusive relationship.

Lately Arsenal have really gone all in with the latter.

Spot on Segway. Good news is they just now barely clawed a point in injury time at home to fucking Freiburg, can't be good for team morale

We should do another offer 45m + Welbeck just to fuck with them

Segway wrote:

Would rather spend the money on a new GK and a new top class midfielder.

I'd much rather a goal scorer.

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

Clrnc wrote:

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

Please, this is real life their is zero chance in the world his agent gave away £1.8m. He might have wanted 4M for the deal and eventually accepted 2.2M but nobody signs a contract that costs them £1.8M.

Clrnc wrote:

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

The same one who refused to get Xabi Alonso because of an extra 2m.

speedy wrote:

Clrnc wrote:

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

Please, this is real life their is zero chance in the world his agent gave away £1.8m. He might have wanted 4M for the deal and eventually accepted 2.2M but nobody signs a contract that costs them £1.8M.

I think it's clear that's what Clrnc meant speedy. Meaning he gave a portion of what he originally demanded from Arsenal to Zenit to make up the difference.

speedy wrote:

Clrnc wrote:

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

Please, this is real life their is zero chance in the world his agent gave away £1.8m. He might have wanted 4M for the deal and eventually accepted 2.2M but nobody signs a contract that costs them £1.8M.

Big Willie wrote:

speedy wrote:

Please, this is real life their is zero chance in the world his agent gave away £1.8m. He might have wanted 4M for the deal and eventually accepted 2.2M but nobody signs a contract that costs them £1.8M.

I think it's  clear that's what Clrnc meant speedy. Meaning he gave a portion of what he originally demanded from Arsenal to Zenit to make up the difference.

That's how a negotiation works. . . . you ask for a more settle for a bit less.

Agent fees werent as crazy back then. We got him for what 14M ish. How much did his agent want to settle for 1.8M less ? He must have expected an stupid 30%ish of the total fee that was never going to happen.

Yeah maybe. But even then Arsenal wpuld have either stumped up more to give Zenit what they wanted or Zenit would have had to lower their asking price. In the end Arsenal would not add anymore money and the agent had to forgo some of his fee to make the deal happen*.

*I don't remember anything about this agent and 1.8m from back then, just assuming what Clrnc said is what actually happened.

Apparently, Aubameyang was booed by some of the Dortmund faithful at today’s game. They’re readying themselves to lose him while you lot are resigned to not getting him. Where will he end up? Transfer purgatory?

Big Willie wrote:

Clrnc wrote:

We are talking about a manager who refused to cough out another 1.8m to get Arshavin over the line. In the end his own agent made up the difference from his own pockets to Zenit.

This deal is really in danger now.

The same one who refused to get Xabi Alonso because of an extra 2m.

I don’t think Wenger is very involved with negotiating fees and wages anymore.

Only if it doesn't work out apparently.

Wenger is definitely involved. The kind of power he has at the club doesn't just go away because Gazidis wants it to.

I'm more positive after Zorc's statement. I read it as "It's not too late for Arsenal", and that they'll still sell if we meet their valuation even though it's getting late.

Segway wrote:

Meh. If Dortmund insist on 65m then leave them in their messy situation. No way he's worth that considering his age and his unwillingness to stay.

Would rather spend the money on a new GK and a new top class midfielder.

No, we'll not make the top 4 by signing a midfielder and goal keeper instead of a striker. 

I thought these guys would try to wrap this up on the weekend to give Dortmund time to find a replacement. I imagine they will make their final offer Tuesday in the £50-53m range as a take it or leave it.
Perhaps what is holding up the deal is how to treat Giroud and the valuation thereof. I imagine Dortmund will want a loan, with the lowest possible loan fee- maybe even zero pounds. And if we want to sell, we will give the highest possible valuation, maybe £25m. There could be such a massive swing in values depending on what the teams eventually decide to do with the parties concerned.
I think Arsenal should do a reasonable offer for Aubameyang and accept a loan on Giroud. That should end this quickly. It’s important to get Aubameyang for his quality and in this moment to arrest the impression that we are selling club.

There is this kid on Twitter (jack) who is affilated on twitter who is adamant that Auba will sign for us by wed evening. Apparently he has a relative who works for Arsenal.