Clrnc wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Sure. I mean, go back to 2010 and half the country throught Aston Villa had the better squad and manager because they were cruising ahead of us for a while. Redknapp's Spurs were supposedly superior too, despite them having a manager who can't read and who had bankrupted all his other clubs.
Pretty sure no one ever thought Aston Villa was superior at all.
I remember back in those days there was always Walcott vs Bale and Wilshere vs Modric threads. We were all overwhelmingly in favour of our own players. As recently as a year ago some said Giroud was twice the player Kane will ever be. It's tough to discuss about players comparison objectively, and even tougher to see 5 rivals in Europe doing well but we will play Red Star Belgrade later.
That's Arsenal fans talking about their own and rival players. Klaus is talking about the general public's perception, where both Villa and Everton have overtaken us at different points, many thought Anderson would be a better footballer than Cesc, Defoe better than RVP (that one was even on AM) and so on. It's not about getting it always right, that cannot be the aim in discussions like these.
There's little objectivity except for hindsight - what can be called objective though is not going into overdrive because of a single match or performance. How many powershifts in London have we witnessed in the last decade (and no doubt many will claim one is occurring as we speak)? How many times were Barcelona/Messi done in Europe? Real have won back to back CL titles five months ago, now we've already witnessed the end of their golden era; all because English teams have for once performed in Europe in the group stages after spending literally billions of pounds.
Even disregarding all of this - just remember how many times clubs were written off/praised to the high heavens before the end of the year. City have won the last six championships by the end of October, Juventus were written off for the past two seasons because of their slow starts and Messi was publicly "flirting" with Chelsea in January 2015 only to win the fucking treble four months later
