flobaba wrote:

The bench. Who specifically on the bench?

Think they were asking him to sit back and stop storming forward.

Can't be Wenger in that case, that actually sounds sensible.

What's Jens doing? We were all hoping that he would reduce exactly this kind of performance, but seems like he has also been overridden by the great man.

Lehmann was never going to change up the entire footballing culture at the club. Takes me back to the days we thought Bould might change things.

BWoolley wrote:

What's Jens doing? We were all hoping that he would reduce exactly this kind of performance, but seems like he has also been overridden by the great man.

At the open training in Sydney he just stood behind the goal fetching the balls. 

BWoolley wrote:

What's Jens doing? We were all hoping that he would reduce exactly this kind of performance, but seems like he has also been overridden by the great man.

He wasn't on the bench. He was in the director's box.

This was when they scored their 4th. The look of resignation on their faces says it all.

Clrnc wrote:

flobaba wrote:

The bench. Who specifically on the bench?

Think they were asking him to sit back and stop storming forward.

Massive assumption there.

17 players out of contract in the next 2 years. The club is actually finished. Feel sorry for the next manager who would have a hell of a job trying to sort out the mess left behind by our "greatest ever manager".

Here's a question for you lot. Imagine you're a starter for Arsenal. You see things as we do; Wenger needs to go. Playing careers are short and you love this club and the city. You want to win things here.

Do you mutiny like the Chelsea and Leicester players did and basically tank to get the manager sacked?

If I honestly thought the current regime was done for, it'd depend on my opportunities and my personal circumstances.

If I wanted to stay in London and play for Arsenal, I'd try to hasten the end of the current mess. If I wanted to get out altogether, I'd play to the best of my ability and refuse to sign any new contracts.

I'd be depressed because I couldn't honestly see any way for Arsene to go, besides waiting 21 months.

I suppose the only way he is going to go is through a run of terrible results and massive crowd unrest - worse than what we've seen. It's probably as much up to the fans to get rid of him - either through noise inside the ground, or by simply refusing to turn up.

That failed last season. He's not leaving until he dies.

I was thinking more like 15,000 fans at a home game, or at several home games in a row.

I don't honestly think this would ever happen though.

As a player Id just give it my all every game and wouldn't get involved. Trouble is our players lack appetite to win and excel themselves

To be honest, I'm surprised it took this long. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I thought we'd have already reached this point by around 2015. So maybe some credit to Wenger for stretching out the rigormotis.

Just saw the Guillame Balague article about Arsene refusing to give Mbappe's people 7m Euro compensation 2 years ago to sign him. Now the boy has a a 150m Euro signing option. Once a miser...

Balague knows fuck all about Spanish football never mind French.

officially the wilderness years chaps

pack your compass, tinderbox, and wenger out banner for warmth

We're in for a rough few years.

Gazza M wrote:

officially the wilderness years chaps

pack your compass, tinderbox, and wenger out banner for warmth

wilderness period is 12 years old.
we are now in the banter years where we have to take it the way the spuds and dippers had to for the past 20 years.
they've replaced us as the "top 4 is a trophy" teams.