mdgoonah41 wrote:

i wonder if he'd work better in a 4-4-2 with giroud partnering him

Or a 4-3-3 with a couple of wingers stretching the defence. One things for sure, he's not working isolated up top on his own.

Big Willie wrote:

Looks like his head had dropped completely. He's not making that many runs anymore even afer laying the ball off to the wings. He needs a few goals to get his confidence back. This Lacazette is a shadow of his Ligue 1 days.

Playing in this Wenger team sucks the life out of players.

Qwiss! wrote:

mdgoonah41 wrote:

i wonder if he'd work better in a 4-4-2 with giroud partnering him

Or a 4-3-3 with a couple of wingers stretching the defence. One things for sure, he's not working isolated up top on his own.

that is my preference. 4-3-3 with two actual wingers who create actual width

HomeSteak wrote:

10 hours now with no goal.

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http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/lacazette-alexandre

est wrote:

Big Willie wrote:

Looks like his head had dropped completely. He's not making that many runs anymore even afer laying the ball off to the wings. He needs a few goals to get his confidence back. This Lacazette is a shadow of his Ligue 1 days.

Playing in this Wenger team sucks the life out of players.

Well look at what it does to us just watching, imagine being on the pitch while the shit unfolds time and time again

Bold Tone wrote:

HomeSteak wrote:

10 hours now with no goal.

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[size=xx-small][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Ligue 1 Conforama[/font]
[/font][/size][size=xx-small][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=xx-small]Goals / Time played :[/size]
1 goal / 86 mins[/font][/size]
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/lacazette-alexandre

Djibril Cisse did quite well also.

Bold Tone wrote:

HomeSteak wrote:

10 hours now with no goal.

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[/font][/size][size=xx-small][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=xx-small]Goals / Time played :[/size]
1 goal / 86 mins[/font][/size]
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/lacazette-alexandre

It's too bad there hasn't been 10 penalties for him to convert this season.

He's really been wasting those dozens of chances that Welbeck has created for him.

Wenger's nonsense about the physicality of the PL being the problem kills me. This guy was our playmaker today, providing chances for bloody Welbeck to fuck up. Maybe he wouldn't be so tired if he wasn't being made to drop to the halfway line, start a move, and then end it at the byline trying to square it to nobody. Or like the rest of the season, where he makes 55 runs off the shoulder per game and never gets a decent pass.

We play in such a stupid way. Maybe he'd have 10 penalties to convert if we ever made the opposition tackle in their own box. Maybe he'd score some tap ins if he weren't the one crossing the ball. Wenger is making him play like Firmino, but without Salah and Mane. The few chances he's managed to get are the ones he's made himself.

Maybe he isn't the greatest one-man strike force in the world, but then, who the hell is?

evoh_1 wrote:

Bold Tone wrote:

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1 goal / 86 mins[/font][/size]
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/lacazette-alexandre

Djibril Cisse did quite well also.

I don't agree with your sarcasm in bringing up Cisse as 19 goals in 57 games from the wing in that Liverpool team, after almost losing his foot the previous year was perfectly respectable.
In any case, the contrast wasn't intended to excuse Lacazette's failings but try and find out why he is underperforming.

Need to ship him out. Grade B striker

I'm still relatively happy with Laca's contribution. He can't do it all on his own.

He always was a Grade B striker but that is our level and was an underwhelming choice for me as his highlights were mainly penalties as Klaus pointed out but he is better than every other striker we've got.
Grade A strikers are only interested in CL teams ...

Meh he’s got nothing about him. Want Tevez at West Ham type of influence

Bold Tone wrote:

He always was a Grade B striker but that is our level and was an underwhelming choice for me as his highlights were mainly penalties as Klaus pointed out but he is better than every other striker we've got.
Grade A strikers are only interested in CL teams ...

there are 2 things that have stood out to me. granted, my analysis of arsenal right now is clouded by my extreme anger toward our manager:

1. he takes an extra second and an extra touch too many at times. he seems to squander chances in the box where he tries to take an extra touch or get the ball onto his right foot. he just needs to be decisive and shoot. i know for a fact he can shoot with his left foot. he needs to shoot when hes in a decent position. just shoot.

2. he doesn't seem to work all that well in tight spaces, and that seems to be our game now. we get players bunched up in the box because we dont have much width, which means there are always 8 guys swarmed around the ball. if we could counterattack more, or there was more room in the box for him to position himself for cutbacks, i think he'd have a few more goals to his name.

part of this is why i want us to switch back to a 4-3-3. he needs space to operate, and hes not getting it now with our shithouse formation

Agree on your first point MD. There's a glaring lack of service for him but there's been a couple of moments where he had the chance to shoot from outside the box but then tried to pass the ball in a tight area instead or make a 1-2 combination to no avail. It's a confidence issue rather than an adaptation issue I think. He lives for goals and his current drought is obviously affecting him.

I still think he's a Grade A striker and we'll see that once/if we manage to create chances for him and he gets his confidence back.

Bold Tone wrote:

evoh_1 wrote:

Djibril Cisse did quite well also.

I don't agree with your sarcasm in bringing up Cisse as 19 goals in 57 games from the wing in that Liverpool team, after almost losing his foot the previous year was perfectly respectable.
In any case, the contrast wasn't intended to excuse Lacazette's failings but try and find out why he is underperforming.

Cisse got less than 5 goals in the 20 odd games he played his first season before that injury. That's compared to 30 goals in ligue 1 the year before. Point is transferring french figures to the premier league isn't straightforward.

mdgoonah41 wrote:

1. he takes an extra second and an extra touch too many at times. he seems to squander chances in the box where he tries to take an extra touch or get the ball onto his right foot. he just needs to be decisive and shoot. i know for a fact he can shoot with his left foot. he needs to shoot when hes in a decent position. just shoot.

At the start of the season he was taking his shots quicker. He's doing a lot of link up work at the moment so I wonder if he's trying to adapt his game for Wenger. Taking a pure goal scorer and trying to make him pass more would be the most Wengery thing in the world. Same as he tried to turn Ozil into a goal scorer. Then again it could just be his confidence is low and thats why he's not acting on instinct.