here is how i've gone through the 5 stages of grief to get to acceptance on this:

  1. our striker options right now are giroud, walcott, and welbeck
  2. giroud is a good option off the bench
  3. if you add alexis as an option there, then we're missing a wide/supporting forward, so it strengthens one area and weakens another
  4. right now, we are envisioning getting in mbappe, which isnt going to happen, so we're pissed about the dropoff to lacazette, which is understandable
  5. lacazette is clearly better than giroud, welbeck and walcott. he is a completely different type of striker compared to giroud
  6. if we are going to play 3 ATB and play a more counter attacking style, then lacazette will be far better in the system than giroud, welbeck or walcott.
  7. if this is a binary choice between lacazette or keeping what we have and going with that, then i am in favor of signing lacazette.
  8. he might cost £40-50m. thats a lot. however, we supposedly have £100m or so to spend. given the other holes in our squad and the lack of quality in our squad, we need to spend the other £60-70m fixing the team. that means probably buying another supporting forward (lemar?) and a goalkeeper. if we spend £125m on mbappe, its unlikely we'd strengthen elsewhere. hes 18. he looks awesome. clearly has bags of talent. but the track record for teenagers coming into the league and dominating right away is spotty at best and more realistically, not very good. in ronaldo's first season at united (who had a good team already), he played 40 times and scored 6 goals. now sure, he was a winger and not a striker, but he didn't come in and slay the league in his first season.

the atmosphere around the club is not great right now. for an 18 year old to come in, for a record fee (by a huge margin) and be expected to carry the team could be problematic. and lets be honest, he'd be our starting number 9 and the weight of expectations would be there, no matter what anyone says. he starts his career going goalless in 6 matches and people would be freaking out, no matter what they say now.

we should still be aiming for the very best talent. but given everything else, including the current state of the first team, i actually think signing lacazette and fixing 2 or 3 other holes in the squad might be preferable. in reality, it doesnt matter. nothing matters.

saw the goals comp was already posted. whatever.

Starting to feel its going to be avec laca et lemar sans Alexis

We should go after whoever real is selling

looks better than bent. Some nice linkup.

banduan wrote:
Jed wrote:

To be fair, people need to adjust their expectations. We're now a Europa league level club, so why are folk outraged that we're about to sign Lacazette, a Europa league level player?

Same way the Mancs could only sign dregs such as Pogba when they were down eh?

Man U are more attractive and far wealthier than us. End of.

Gunner89 wrote:

looks better than bent. Some nice linkup.

Of course he's better than Bent, people are just being hyperbolic.

Would be a top class signing for Huddersfield Town.

Diaby KungFu wrote:

Would be a top class signing for Huddersfield Town.

Fact.

Diaby KungFu wrote:

Would be a top class signing for Huddersfield Town.

Huddersfield are more attractive than us. End of.

mdgoonah41 wrote:

here is how i've gone through the 5 stages of grief to get to acceptance on this:

  1. our striker options right now are giroud, walcott, and welbeck
  2. giroud is a good option off the bench
  3. if you add alexis as an option there, then we're missing a wide/supporting forward, so it strengthens one area and weakens another
  4. right now, we are envisioning getting in mbappe, which isnt going to happen, so we're pissed about the dropoff to lacazette, which is understandable
  5. lacazette is clearly better than giroud, welbeck and walcott. he is a completely different type of striker compared to giroud
  6. if we are going to play 3 ATB and play a more counter attacking style, then lacazette will be far better in the system than giroud, welbeck or walcott.
  7. if this is a binary choice between lacazette or keeping what we have and going with that, then i am in favor of signing lacazette.
  8. he might cost £40-50m. thats a lot. however, we supposedly have £100m or so to spend. given the other holes in our squad and the lack of quality in our squad, we need to spend the other £60-70m fixing the team. that means probably buying another supporting forward (lemar?) and a goalkeeper. if we spend £125m on mbappe, its unlikely we'd strengthen elsewhere. hes 18. he looks awesome. clearly has bags of talent. but the track record for teenagers coming into the league and dominating right away is spotty at best and more realistically, not very good. in ronaldo's first season at united (who had a good team already), he played 40 times and scored 6 goals. now sure, he was a winger and not a striker, but he didn't come in and slay the league in his first season.

the atmosphere around the club is not great right now. for an 18 year old to come in, for a record fee (by a huge margin) and be expected to carry the team could be problematic. and lets be honest, he'd be our starting number 9 and the weight of expectations would be there, no matter what anyone says. he starts his career going goalless in 6 matches and people would be freaking out, no matter what they say now.

we should still be aiming for the very best talent. but given everything else, including the current state of the first team, i actually think signing lacazette and fixing 2 or 3 other holes in the squad might be preferable. in reality, it doesnt matter. nothing matters.

saw the goals comp was already posted. whatever.

Agreed - the priority needs to be to address the issues/weaknesses and to balance the team.
As such IMO capability / horses for courses trumps quality = ensure the team is capable of playing in the manner expected/needed/required, and then to improve the quality, rather than sign bargain quality and then try to make it fit.

I don't care if the likes of Lacazette, Lemar & Goretzka are not considered elite / top quality, if they can combine to improve the capability of performance. You need a team & match day squad with capability & balance as opposed to a collection of players with quality and potential.
 

Not going be upset with this signing. Been a long time since we bought a decent striker that is fast and can score goals.

He will fit better than Giroud. Much better

This signing has to be taken in context. We are a Europa league team at the moment and this is about as good as it gets.

I think we can do better, but I don't trust Wenger and Gazidis to execute on stretch targets. So I would seal this deal and fill out the rest of the squad.
Just sit here and think about the Higuain / Suarez debacle. A bird in the hand...

Don Pacifico wrote:
Klaus wrote:

He's a jumped up Darren Bent who bags a lot of penalties. It would be typical us to get stuck with this shower of shit in a summer where at least half a dozen high-profile strikers seem to be moving around.

Not that I disagree on Lacazette but do do you think is better that is available. I can only think of one who is out of our price range and another who is arguably less proven than Lacazette.

Morata and Auba is probably out of our reach, Belotti is far too expensive for a 1 season guy.

Probably only Icardi?

Qwiss! wrote:

This signing has to be taken in context. We are a Europa league team at the moment and this is about as good as it gets.

Pretty much, and we don't have United's money to make up for it.

Really? Which club will we unseat? Do you assume Liverpool would be too stretched?

We would have got it this season, if Wenger didn't faff about with his contract.

They finished a point ahead of us. You have to think CL vs no CL is more than a point of a difference maker. Unless they sign a good striker and seriously improve their midfield and defence it should be no problem to finish ahead of them.

god I wish I had as much free time as others. Shit posting on opp footbal forums. If only I could find the time.