None of what you say is based on anything other than random beliefs and assumptions about Neymar's character.
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speedy wrote:I could be a great accountant or banker or CEO but I've never tried to be those things so I dont know.
I presume you went to school?
Edit: see below.
y va marquer wrote:Football is the most competitive business in the world?
I doubt it.
In fairness to speedy, I doubted it as well, but according to this professional athletes are 3rd on the list of most competitive jobs: http://www.businessinsider.com/most-competitive-jobs-in-america-2013-12?IR=T
It's not the most competitive as he claimed and as I quite rightly doubted :hat:
Choreography - now that's a barbarous, savage and pitiless business 
Plus footballers are just one of a myriad of professional that fall into the category "athletes"
Would not think football is the most dog eat dog of all sports.
Mirth wrote:speedy wrote:I could be a great accountant or banker or CEO but I've never tried to be those things so I dont know.
I presume you went to school?
Edit: see below.
I have friends I went to school with that were terrible at math but excellent accountants. As accountancy is primary school math with in depth knowledge of tax laws and flaws in those laws.
speedy wrote:Mirth wrote:I presume you went to school?
Edit: see below.
I have friends I went to school with that were terrible at math but excellent accountants. As accountancy is primary school math with in depth knowledge of tax laws and flaws in those laws.
Mirth is an accountant I think.
Qwiss! wrote:Tony Montana wrote:Some of the fallout about BBC pay was about the vast sums regardless of gender. I'm here in the UK and can hear and read it.
The BBC is a public broadcaster though. Its about allocation of the license fee. Its not the same thing.
No some people thought that these presenters should not be paid the amounts revealed, pure and simple.
It's the same with Bankers and CEOs in general.
y va marquer wrote:It's not the most competitive as he claimed and as I quite rightly doubted :hat:
Choreography - now that's a barbarous, savage and pitiless business
I'd say professional athlete might be 3rd but football in my view is first. While sports that are less competitive would drag that right down. If you wanted to be a beach vollyballer in Ireland you'd have hardly any competition. You want to be a professional footballer the competition is extreme.
I was sitting with an agent a while ago his phone rang and someone sent him a video of a German kid 16 looked unreal. Asked if he wanted to sign him. He said no chnave an hung up. I asked why and he said if he's 16 and hasn't got an agent he must be shit. That's give you a glimpse of how high the bar is. The guy doesn't want a 1 in 100,000 talent he wants that 1 in a million.
There's 5million people in greater Manchester most have played a come of footie and wellbeck and rashford are the only 2 that made it in the prem. Theirs about 1000 kids in the man city academy found by talent scouts the best of the best maybe one will make it to the prem.
I hear what you're saying, I don’t agree with you.
"he's 16 and hasn't got an agent he must be shit"
does not show me how high the bar is at all
speedy wrote:y va marquer wrote:Football is the most competitive business in the world?
I doubt it.Think I'd turn that phrase around to "almost every guy in the world would be anything you asked them to be if they could make that much money"
A one in a billion talent who "deserves" to make that much money?
Again, I doubt it.Good luck to him earning that kind of money but please don't try justify it as somehow fair or laudable.
Of all the people who make that money most of them have done it by exploitation, corruption or they're born owning half the monopoly board. Neymar has unreal talent I said he's probably more deserving than most on the rich list.
He's innocent of the corruption charges then?
y va marquer wrote:I hear what you're saying, I don’t agree with you.
"he's 16 and hasn't got an agent he must be shit"
does not show me how high the bar is at all
Why?
Why don't I agree?
I already explained.
Why don't I think some random football agent's opinion that being signed up with an agent is an indicator of a 16 year old's talent is an example of "how high the bar is" in terms of competition in football?
If the bar is set by money grubbing scum then it's not high.
goon wrote:In all seriousness, I think it's more resentment for his employers. Signing Neymar for an overall cost of over ÂŁ400m is the equivalent of gold plating your Bugatti so you can stand out while you drive past the homeless.
When I realised the 443m on Neymar is the equivalent of what Inter Milan cost, I know football is dead. Simply not sustainable.
It's an example of the difference between the 1/10 of 1% and the rest of the pack.
y va marquer wrote:speedy wrote:Of all the people who make that money most of them have done it by exploitation, corruption or they're born owning half the monopoly board. Neymar has unreal talent I said he's probably more deserving than most on the rich list.
He's innocent of the corruption charges then?
The top 1% avoiding taxes. When did this happen.
y va marquer wrote:Why don't I agree?
I already explained.Why don't I think some random football agent's opinion that being signed up with an agent is an indicator of a 16 year old's talent is an example of "how high the bar is" in terms of competition in football?
If the bar is set by money grubbing scum then it's not high.
Why does an agent have to be scum.
Clrnc wrote:goon wrote:In all seriousness, I think it's more resentment for his employers. Signing Neymar for an overall cost of over ÂŁ400m is the equivalent of gold plating your Bugatti so you can stand out while you drive past the homeless.
When I realised the 443m on Neymar is the equivalent of what Inter Milan cost, I know football is dead. Simply not sustainable.
Football is fine all the clubs could go bust. And new clubs would open the next day with all the best players on show.
@ speedy
I'll rephrase that: a person who piggy backs on the talent of children and teenagers, whose primary motivation is personal financial gain, is in a profession where moral degradation is a key attribute to success
speedy wrote:Mirth wrote:I presume you went to school?
Edit: see below.
I have friends I went to school with that were terrible at math but excellent accountants. As accountancy is primary school math with in depth knowledge of tax laws and flaws in those laws.
Yep, and it's not maths that matters here but your general ability to learn. Which is what you go to school for.
Source: me.