@lorddulaarsenal wrote:http://www.redcafe.net/threads/can-lukaku-break-records.430574/
Cringe
what even the fuck
Other clubs transfer thread Summer 2017 ( Barcelona sign Dembele)
Segway wrote:Lukaku really comes off like a massive twat. Laughable really.
Never understood how so many couldn't see this, maybe because of the smaller stature of clubs he used to play for? He's an arrogant little shit, both on and off the pitch, not a shred of humility. I remember when he scored his 50th league goal (a shit tapin iirc) he celebrated by displaying 50 with his hands for about three minutes straight ffs
Also I'm 100% certain that you can't be a good person when your first touch is that shit
Can't be happy about this one.
I think he'll likely flourish at United over time and I wish he were an Arsenal player.
For 100m? No way.
Mourinho has been a prick about this too, with reports that he looked at Lacazette but decided he didn't have a "big game mentality". I'm pretty sure Lukaku has gone missing a fair bit.
They don't even need big game mentality. All their dropped points was too small teams. They needed a flat track bully and got one.
Yeah like I said he'll flourish. He won't have much of an adaptation period as he's not even going to need to move house in all likelihood.
He's always been a productive striker, and a supposed "flat track bully" is exactly what you need in this league where even the smaller clubs remain competitive. This is a bad development for our top four prospects.
I don't think he will get anymore than 15-20 league goals. And for 90m I would expect more.
If Everton do get Giroud they will have replaced Lukaku's goals more than sufficiently.
I'm so confused. The guy got 25 league goals just last season in front of no name playmakers. So now he is going to decrease his production by 20-40%?
It's not about number of goals, though he'll score plenty, it's about Mourinho being able to use him as a mobile, productive target man and have United play the sort of shitty negative football he loves in every tricky match.
He may have got 25 goals but his average is 15-20 goals throughout his career, bar last season his stats are pretty much the same as Girouds. Also a lot of his goals came from crosses and wingers, he doesn't need a "playmaker".
Clrnc wrote:They don't even need big game mentality. All their dropped points was too small teams. They needed a flat track bully and got one.
More so than Zlatan?
I think Lukaku's success depends more on the rest of the United side rather than the other way around. If they play like they did last season he'll probably drop back down to the 14-18 goals a season range.
Burnwinter wrote:Yeah like I said he'll flourish. He won't have much of an adaptation period as he's not even going to need to move house in all likelihood.
He's always been a productive striker, and a supposed "flat track bully" is exactly what you need in this league where even the smaller clubs remain competitive. This is a bad development for our top four prospects.
Why? They had a better striker last year and didn't make top four.
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Yeah, it's like people only see that they added Lukaku and assume they will improve, but ignore that they lost a striker that Lukaku doesn't even deserve to be compared with.
goon wrote:Clrnc wrote:They don't even need big game mentality. All their dropped points was too small teams. They needed a flat track bully and got one.
More so than Zlatan?
I think Lukaku's success depends more on the rest of the United side rather than the other way around. If they play like they did last season he'll probably drop back down to the 14-18 goals a season range.
Zlatan had the worst conversion rate of big chances last season. He basically had the most shots but scored the least vs the small boys in home matches.
Bold Tone wrote:
Which ever way this goes, I'm betting there's gonna be some serious "told ya so's" flying around!
I reckon both sides will probably end up claiming they were right
I'm gonna be coming for you goon!!
Bold Tone wrote:
Gurgen wrote:Burnwinter wrote:Yeah like I said he'll flourish. He won't have much of an adaptation period as he's not even going to need to move house in all likelihood.
He's always been a productive striker, and a supposed "flat track bully" is exactly what you need in this league where even the smaller clubs remain competitive. This is a bad development for our top four prospects.
Why? They had a better striker last year and didn't make top four.
Well apparently Lukaku is better than Ibrahimovic.
Bayern have signed James on a two year loan, probably means they aren't after Sanchez.
I wonder how much players like James Beattie, Andy Johnson and Kevin Davies would cost if they were in their prime today.
Ray wrote:Bayern have signed James on a two year loan, probably means they aren't after Sanchez.
Another one of those shady loan deals. Surprised no other clubs were in for James.
What's shady about it? Genuine question.
If player prices continue rising as they've done in recent years, imagine what a deal this will be in two years when Bayern sign him for €35m.
Shady wrote:I wonder how much players like James Beattie, Andy Johnson and Kevin Davies would cost if they were in their prime today.
Beattie's fee would probably be comparable to Lukaku. I think he would have ended up at United too in this age where there are fewer strikers around.
Burnwinter wrote:Yeah like I said he'll flourish. He won't have much of an adaptation period as he's not even going to need to move house in all likelihood.
He's always been a productive striker, and a supposed "flat track bully" is exactly what you need in this league where even the smaller clubs remain competitive. This is a bad development for our top four prospects.
Pretty sure I read that he and Pogba are already next door neighbours.
jones wrote:Well apparently Lukaku is better than Ibrahimovic.
He's more than ten years younger than Ibrahimovic, very strong, very fast and mobile, and a top quality finisher. Plays basically every minute of every game and picked up 25 goals last season for a mid-table club.
I don't think there's any need to take the comparison with Ibrahimovic anywhere. He'll never be Zlatan, but unfortunately he'll probably be very good for United.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:What's shady about it? Genuine question.
It's one of those deals to get around FFP rules with regards to wages I reckon.
Ricky1985 wrote:Burnwinter wrote:Yeah like I said he'll flourish. He won't have much of an adaptation period as he's not even going to need to move house in all likelihood.
He's always been a productive striker, and a supposed "flat track bully" is exactly what you need in this league where even the smaller clubs remain competitive. This is a bad development for our top four prospects.
Pretty sure I read that he and Pogba are already next door neighbours.
They're proper chums.
Burnwinter wrote:jones wrote:Well apparently Lukaku is better than Ibrahimovic.
I don't think there's any need to take the comparison with Ibrahimovic anywhere. He'll never be Zlatan, but unfortunately he'll probably be very good for United.
Isn't it a very relevant comparison when discussing whether they'll be better than last season?
Burnwinter wrote:He's more than ten years younger than Ibrahimovic, very strong, very fast and mobile, and a top quality finisher. Plays basically every minute of every game and picked up 25 goals last season for a mid-table club.
Not so sure about top quality finisher...
The comparison is fine, and it's reasonable to point out that United are losing an aging Ibrahimovic at the same time as they add a much younger player who scored more goals at a faster rate for a lesser club than the Swede in 16/17 to their squad.
But I don't think the comparison's the final word, that'll be more about what Lukaku actually delivers and we'll see that for ourselves.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:What's shady about it? Genuine question.
I wouldn't say shady but the information circulating at the moment can't be true. Pretty sure he'll be a free agent in two years time, also Real usually get good money for their players while this transfer looks like a horrible, even nonsensical deal for them
Burnwinter wrote:jones wrote:Well apparently Lukaku is better than Ibrahimovic.
He's more than ten years younger than Ibrahimovic, very strong, very fast and mobile, and a top quality finisher. Plays basically every minute of every game and picked up 25 goals last season for a mid-table club.
Ibrahimovic was at a midtable club himself last season
Not sure what the panic is for. United have a lot of money and were always going to spend big this summer; if you look at it that way there's no way you can't be happy about them spending this much on a striker who's so fundamentally flawed
6th placed team signs a donkey from 7th placed team for 100m and you guys are shitting yourselves. Have a word ffs
jones wrote:Quincy Abeyie wrote:What's shady about it? Genuine question.
I wouldn't say shady but the information circulating at the moment can't be true. Pretty sure he'll be a free agent in two years time, also Real usually get good money for their players while this transfer looks like a horrible, even nonsensical deal for them
They did a similar deal with Juve and Coman. Definitely seems dodgy.
Ray wrote:jones wrote:I wouldn't say shady but the information circulating at the moment can't be true. Pretty sure he'll be a free agent in two years time, also Real usually get good money for their players while this transfer looks like a horrible, even nonsensical deal for them
They did a similar deal with Juve and Coman. Definitely seems dodgy.
That one made more sense, Coman was a punt with a decent overall fee for a kid where no one would know if he'd make it (and to be fair his second season was a bit shit). James is a known quantity who 1) has no need to be loaned out in the first place and 2) is worth at least 60m in today's money, let alone in 2019 money
Perhaps it comes with a considerable loan fee. Either way it indicates no one else was really in for him, which seems unlikely.