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FEBravo

I am Arsenal Till I Die Brilliant! Much obliged!

Gurgen

Clrnc This in indeed incredible and explains a lot. They’re all from orc land and apart from being corrupt pricks, don’t understand the rules of the game

Mirth

Should the first Bournemouth goal have been ruled out as well? Apparently one of the Bournemouth players were already in our half at kick off?

People keep blaming VAR but I'm grateful because VAR has shown up the excuse of human error. The referees in England are incompetent, corrupt and weak. No other league has such a poor standard of referees and even the famously corrupt FIFA are capable of managing a higher standard of refereeing.

mohan

Burnwinter fair enough. I feel he was definitely hit from back without touching the ball. Its a definite foul if it happened outside the box.

Didn't they make it clear that unnnatural position of your hands no matter the intent will be a pen? I am certain either one of those handball VAR lookouts would have been given against us.

Burnwinter

mohan Didn't they make it clear that unnnatural position of your hands no matter the intent will be a pen?

They did, and they are hopelessly inconsistent, but I personally don't think random handballs should be penalties, just how I feel about it. But yeah according to what they say it should've been given, as should the kick on Tomiyasu.

When I think about how we nearly dropped points in this match it's mostly about the two soft goals we conceded.

QuincyAbeyie

mohan Yeah, if it were just intended handballs that were given, there would pretty much never be a single penalty given for handball. It's not often that you see Suarez vs. Ghana-style handballs, most of them are just defenders being unaware of where they're keeping their arms.

flobaba

These days almost all defending one on one in the box happens with defenders putting their hands behind their backs while jockeying the opposing player. And then you have yesterday where the commentator even says something along the lines of the only way we could get a pen against them was if they actually catch the ball. It was just shit refereeing. We didn't give the last one so we can't give this one sort of nonsense

goon

flobaba that's exactly it. I guarantee not a single one would have been overturned either if they were given too.

I have to say though I don't think any of them stonewall pens so can understand VAR not intervening. The referee copping out of making a decision in real time though is less understandable. After each appeal you could see him say 'relax if VAR see a handball they'll give it', but that's not the case. You end up in this ludicrous situation where none of the officials make a decision because they're able to defer responsibility to the other official.

Claudius

I saw nothing wrong from referees yesterday

RocktheCasbah

I didn't think the majority of our penalty shouts were penalties, so completely understand why VAR didn't get involved in any of them. The one I would question is the one where the defender pretty clearly diverts Saka's cut back onto the post with his upper arm, but I'm not clear which part of the arm the ball has to hit for it to be handball.

Tam

RocktheCasbah Anything below the armpit is deemed as handball. Which I guess is where talk of the 'sleeve rule' comes in. I looked at that incident pretty closely and I reckon it's right on the borderline and probably not a handball. The arm is tucked in and the body is leaning into it, perhaps it might have been different if the arm was raised. Not saying it necessarily should be, but we know how these things work.

RocktheCasbah

Okay, so that one was probably fair enough as well then. Thanks for clarifying.

Clrnc

I was surprised many thought Tomiyasu one wasn't a penalty. More contact than this one

I didn't think the handballs were clear cut so no issues with any of those

mohan

Apologize for bringing this again and again but look at the penalty that Brentford got vs Fulham today. A very similar one to Tomi.

SimplyThePest

https://www.football365.com/news/fa-decide-bruno-fernandes-fate-push-official-liverpool-mauling-man-utd

No further action taken against Fernandes, as expected.

flobaba

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38015611/referee-mike-dean-quits-premier-league-var-role

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