Serious answer: saw a crapola story saying some Chinese club were willing to pay him 400k
Which brings me back to the point: we won't need to pay anywhere near that to keep him
Who is the better player, Ozil or Sanchez?
Nope. I think a good way of signing them up would be to go out and buy another player on their level. Show we mean business
Look down the road. Harry Kane just signed a contact for £100k a week. Surely he could command more, but he stayed as they're showing intent to grow as a club
The latest was that they want parity with the league's top earner like Rooney and Pogba at 300k and using Chinese interest as a tool in negotiation.
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:Nope. I think a good way of signing them up would be to go out and buy another player on their level. Show we mean business
Look down the road. Harry Kane just signed a contact for £100k a week. Surely he could command more, but he stayed as they're showing intent to grow as a club
Kane is a young player and an academy product though. Ozil and Sanchez have no reason to show such loyalty.
Plus let's be real, are we honestlg talking about Harry fucking Kane as some kind of comparison to Sanchez or Ozil?
Yes. In terms of signing on for a salary less than he could get elsewhere.
Say what you will about Kane the mouth breather, but 100k a week is a steal for him.
I get the Kane comparison but both Sanchez and Oil are slightly different cases. They both have moved around a bit in their careers and although you can argue about the reasons, both have left bigger clubs then ours to move to a team that some might have questioned at the time. It suggests some willingness to take a risk if they aren't fully convinced about their current position.
jones wrote:Where does this 400k figure come from? Serious question.
John Cross. I think he was the one who asked Wenger about it as well in the presser which he says he believe it.
Klaus wrote:goon wrote:I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect us to just hand them over a biggest salary in the league, as much as/more than the guy who broke all sorts of transfer records this summer.
I don't think it's unrealistic. 2-3 years from now a £300K per week salary for a world class player won't be competitive anymore. There will be plenty of people earning more, but neither Özil or Alexis will be able to get such a big contract once they've hit 30. This is their peak.
If you're Özil or Alexis you wouldn't look at what other Arsenal players earn. You'd look at United, who pay Wayne Rooney more than we pay both of them put together. Özil is our top earner at the moment and he barely earns more than City offered Samir Nasri when we let him go five years ago. If the club think that's sustainable then we're all in for a collective shock soon.
The top end of salaries have barely gone up outside United in the last 6 years. It was 6-7 years ago that players were signing big 200-250k contracts and that's still what everyone outside United is earning, so I don't buy that the top players in the league will be earning 400k in a couple of seasons.
So yes, for me it's completely unrealistic to expect us pay them more than the highest earning player at a club who's commercial income is triple our own and said player has huge commercial possibilities, last time I checked Sanchez and Ozil don't dab. Rooney earns more than everyone in the league bar Pogba and Zlatan, United's ridiculousness and desperation should not be a benchmark. I personally think it's pretty great if we're able to compete with the oil rich clubs on wages.
Ultimately it will come down to how much we want to keep them and their willingness to stay and that will determine the level of compromise.
If Sanchez at this point in his career were to go to China his motivation for going would be clear, in this such case I wouldn't care. But I dont think he's the kind to go to such a league right now. I agree that we should do our very best to keep them and go the extra mile if needed but at the same time not be silly. I remember many of the invincibles were on bonus initiatives, so for winning silverware they'd get a chunk extra, don't see why we can do that for these two.
I don't think the China link could be taken seriously either. One thing are those whose best years are behind and go abroad to try something new at the end of their careers, another are players like Pelle who never was a big player to begin with and simple wanted to earn some big money. Sanchez doesn't belong in those two categories.
A simple task of them to sign contract up to 200,000k a week if we were to win one of the two big trophies to satisfy their needs, a difficult one if we stay behind again.
goon wrote:The top end of salaries have barely gone up outside United in the last 6 years. It was 6-7 years ago that players were signing big 200-250k contracts and that's still what everyone outside United is earning, so I don't buy that the top players in the league will be earning 400k in a couple of seasons.
It's just a mix of players either getting too old or moving away when entering their prime. Suarez wouldn't have settled on £200K per week if he had stayed in Premier League, for instance.
Right now there is a generation of players that is about to push top earners into (or close to) the £300K bracket. You've got Agüero on £240K and Hazard on £220K, and their contracts expire in 2019 and 2020 respectively. Costa is on £185K currently and he's having a world class season. What do you think they'll earn next time they extend, which will probably be within the next 6-12 months? Their agents aren't looking at what Yaya Touré earned 4 years ago. They're looking at Pogba and Zlatan.
I think both will renew their contracts soon.
Is it possible to give them a one off golden handshake and then just pay them a salary that won't fuck up the structure of our wage bill?
Ozil is our best player but Alexis is the one we can't afford to lose IMO. We all know how difficult it is to get a quality striker in the market these days and Ozil as a nr. 10 poses a problem for us tactically - we are better off playing 3 in the middle IMO. If we can't meet their demand I'd sell Ozil and give Alexis whatever he wants. I might be in the minority here but I believe Ramsey could be a star as the most attacking player in a midfield 3 (his best position IMO).