I reckon we're "trying".

Which means we'll field Giroud and Walcott all season.

We've "enquired about xxx but were told he was not for sale."

marv3llous wrote:

I reckon we're "trying".

Which means we'll field Giroud and Walcott all season.

😆

I only have two hopes for the next season: we play some decent football at times and Wenger quits at the end of it.

We should put everything we have into signing Gabriel Jesus.

He's definitely the next "big thing", but Wenger doesn't work with young south American talent.

well, to be fair.. in England, it doesnt work that well since he isnt a regular on the national team... and we seem to have a particular problem getting a "special talent" visa for players. thus, they end playing in spain for 4 years and then released

(unless rules have changed?)

Yeah, the rules have been tweaked. If you pay more than £10 million (which he's guaranteed to cost) they automatically qualify for a special talent Visa. There's nothing stopping us, except paying premium fees for the best talents out there.

Ray wrote:

He's definitely the next "big thing", but Wenger doesn't work with young south American talent.

We pulled off Denilson from Brazil and Sylvinho too previously. Emiliano Martinez our GK, Wellington Silva, Joel Campbell, Pedro Potelho, Juan Jaimez, Nelson Vivas, Cabellero and Carlos Vela. Edu was 22 when we got him.

We also loaned that Mexican midfielder fora couple pre season games in 2012/13.

Sylvinho was like 27 when we signed him.

That's one underwhelming list of players to be honest. Edu is the only one who ever turned into anything useful during his time here. The rest of them either stalled in their development or spent years abroad and never got the chance here. Vela started to develop again once he was out of Wenger's reach. I can see Ray's point.

On one hand I mostly think the track record is poor because there isn't a huge sample size. Then again, there isn't a huge sample size because Wenger doesn't favour working with young South American talent. There used to be valid reasons to not gamble on them, such as the difficulty in obtaining work permits, but that excuse has been out the window for a while now. We both could and should go after players like Gabriel Jesus and Gabigol.

He said Wenger doesn't work with south Americans, he does. Not often but he has done so in the past.

That meager list of players shows that Wenger doesn't sign a lot of young south (or central) americans, which is exactly what Ray suggested. It also shows that we're not going for the big talents when we do spring to action. Vela is the only one on that list who was being head hunted by all the big European clubs.

If indeed that's what he was suggesting, then he's right. Wenger doesn't sign the superstar young players from S.America. He has signed a number in the past though. No often, but he has dabbled in that region before.

Considering South Americas rich heritage and calibre when it comes to football he's dabbled strikingly little in the past 20 years.

I'll be honest. I'm starting to get the slightest doubt today that Wenger is not going to do what is necessary to improve the team. I've seen the impoverished Dortmund bring in Schurlle, Dembele and Gotze to strengthen their frontline, and wonder what are we going to do? I would've happily taken Gotze, put him on a contract with range of 100-200k per week depending on personal output and taken it from there. 95% of me still believes Arsenal will invest adequately, but as I see teams in pre-season, little bit doubt sets in

City wants Gabriel Jesus and they will get him. We should just go for Gabigol but Wenger is too risk adverse.

Klaus wrote:

Yeah, the rules have been tweaked. If you pay more than £10 million (which he's guaranteed to cost) they automatically qualify for a special talent Visa. There's nothing stopping us, except paying premium fees for the best talents out there.

OK, yes..  i remember hearing that now that you say it.. 

10 days later


Wengs will rescue us soon. 

I'm quite happy with as many people in the game as possible, even Sutton, being as brutal and clear as that. He is absolutely spot on too.

Sidenote, but why is Sutton seemingly so disliked in England? I've seen a lot of animosity towards him.

I always liked him personally, especially during his time at Celtic. He was one of few strikers who were actually meaner to English defenders than they were to him. It was funny seeing self-professed hard men complaining like little babies around him.

Rex wrote:

I'm quite happy with as many people in the game as possible, even Sutton, being as brutal and clear as that. He is absolutely spot on too.

Should have uses the 'irony' emoji! Chris Sutton's not exactly out there in the media and well known. I want others - other Jose - toe say it. Lee Dixon did in a milder tone during the Villa match.

No concrete transfer news for us in last two, three days.

With the season fast approaching it is concerning.

Minimum for the rest of the summer should be: sign Lyon striker and Musafi. MINIMUM.

That's not necessarily a bad sign given how stealth like Arsene and co can be

12 days later

Scrap that. It's now abundantly clear we have no intention to strengthen the squad further. Wenger has failed us badly yet again

Let it out Dules. Breathe in .... aaaaaannnnnndddd relax. It's all over.

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Scrap that. It's now abundantly clear we have no intention to strengthen the squad further.  Wenger has failed us badly yet again

Specialist in failure...?

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Scrap that. It's now abundantly clear we have no intention to strengthen the squad further.  Wenger has failed us badly yet again

He'll go next summer mate. Cheer up.

Cannon wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Scrap that. It's now abundantly clear we have no intention to strengthen the squad further.  Wenger has failed us badly yet again

Specialist in failure...?

First van Persie, now Mourinho. Can't wait to see who you'll be quoting next from the conveyor belt of cunts.

goon wrote:
Cannon wrote:

Specialist in failure...?

First van Persie, now Mourinho. Can't wait to see who you'll be quoting next from the conveyor belt of cunts.

Wenger at the presser today

'we are working very hard, buying calms the fans down'

He is taking a dig at fans dules. You seem to have missed it.

Full quote and question:

on if fans will be happy to hear that (we are ready to spend money)…
"Buying calms the fans down, but it is important to spend but even more important to spend it the right way."

It's not a dig at all. The 'working hard' bit was a part of his answer to a completely different question.

goon wrote:

Full quote and question:

on if fans will be happy to hear that (we are ready to spend money)…
"Buying calms the fans down, but it is important to spend but even more important to spend it the right way."

It's not a dig at all. The 'working hard' bit was a part of his answer to a completely different question.

I think its a silly and disrespectful way of looking at fans by wenger, considering how it has been with our transfers and squad

EDIT:

It depends on the context, the fact that he follows it up with 'it is important to spend' suggests to me it's not said flippantly but I've not seen it live and can't watch from work.

Yeah well don't waste you time. Its not worth it.

Don't think he was mocking the fans at all. It was a generic statement not necessarily aimed at Arsenal fans. He is also right in that managers and clubs need to be above the impatience the fans can show.

In this case though Arsenal fans have shown a lot of patience. He needs to address squad needs. If he doesn't buy, the players already here need to give results. If they don't, he needs to be accountable for being wrong that there weren't better players available.