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Quincy Abeyie wrote:

That's the same link as the one that reignited this rumour. 😆

Oops damn. I've been avoiding the Lacazette thread because I don't want him, and came across the link independently. 🙂

Hope we get someone else.

Don't think there is any way AW pays 40m+ for Lacazette, and I suspect that the form shown by Sanchez and Giroud has given him all the excuse he needs to not do so.

Have you watched him play, Anzac? Bloke's bang average. The market for strikers is at an all-time low and yet Lacazette is as unwanted by European clubs as he is by his own national team. He'll move to Tottenham in a year or two and flop miserably.

... unless he comes here first. if he does come, he will be welcomed as an upgrade on Walcott and Welbeck. Giroud is better.
this signing would have to be accompanied by a superior attacking mid, e.g., Mahrez or James to make any kind of sense.

There are atleast half a dozen strikers playing in the prem that I'd rather go for

I have a good mate who is OL born and bred and who also knows his football and he genuinely rates this guy. I think Lacazette is a bit better than most of you think. Not totally unlike Vardy but a bit better at beating his man with skill rather than just pace. He also has been scoring in buckets for a few seasons now

he seems like a good dribbler and hes very quick. he doesnt seem like a natural finisher but hes obviously scored a shitload of goals the last 2 seasons, albeit in a pretty poor league

Fekir's the best attacking player at Lyon anyway. I'd rather sign him if he's over his injury.

Fekir would be great. Probably the last opportunity to get him before he has a full season and price skyrockets

Klaus wrote:

Have you watched him play, Anzac? Bloke's bang average. The market for strikers is at an all-time low and yet Lacazette is as unwanted by European clubs as he is by his own national team. He'll move to Tottenham in a year or two and flop miserably.

Was more thinking primarily in terms of pricing & AW's principles, let alone any actual assessment of the player's quality or ability.

IMO the idea that the ST market is poor is primarily an impact of more managers wanting a player who can do everything as CF, as a result of the impacts / demands of possession football & the advances in tactics re counter-pressing and positional play, along with the trend of over emphasising numbers to dominate in midfield. 
It's not just the lack of complete forwards but also the failure of the team collective & Total Football approach to step up and provide the balance where needed.
I suspect that more teams will revert to 2-3 man attacks so as to compensate for the lack of these compete forwards who have always been a rarity, and that we'll see greater emphasis returning to players who can deliver in key roles regardless of any supposed deficiencies in the game elsewhere.

Doc wrote:

Fekir would be great.  Probably the last opportunity to get him before he has a full season and price skyrockets

Main issue is that Lyon have said that they don't need to sell for financial reasons and that they are only prepared to sell 1 starting player this summer, and they've already sold Umtiti. 

I would rather sign Shane Long, Lacazette is terrible

If Lacazette isn't good enough to get in ahead of Gignac in the France squad let alone Giroud, how on earth is he good enough to start for us?

Jed wrote:

If Lacazette isn't good enough to get in ahead of Gignac in the France squad let alone Giroud, how on earth is he good enough to start for us?

/end thread  😃

What French managers do is hardly indicative of the talent pool available - there's no way guys like Evra or Matuidi should have had a single minute at the Euros for example.

Besides Lacazette isn't a target man and that's how we played all tournament.

Also the likes of Gignac, Sissoko (was great for France to be fair) etc got in ahead of Martial, does that mean they are all more talented/better than the latter?

spaceman spiff wrote:

I have a good mate who is OL born and bred and who also knows his football and he genuinely rates this guy.

Yeah but so is Lacazette. I never trust fans when it comes to players like that.

It's a bit like that, yeah. The difference is that Wilshere is considered an extreme end top talent by practically everyone in the game. Find me someone who has ever made that claim about Lacazette outside Lyon.

A better example would be Jenkinson perhaps, who's so poor that he's barely league level quality and yet people were calling for him to start ahead of Sagna. He's being treated like a club legend because he owns a shower curtain with an Arsenal logo.

Wilshere is an 'extreme end top talent'? Not anymore. His last consistently good performance for us was like 5 years ago. But he still pops up in people's starting 11 all the time for some weird reason.