Jamie Vardy: Page 4 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Jamie Vardy

Bryant

would love to have him here. he could be our new Ian Wright.

IBL

Vardy is quick, tenacious and knows where the goal is. He'd made good use of Ozil thats for sure.
Would be a good signing for a few years of service.

invisibleman18

Expected United to be spending big on him. Would be surprised if it happens but should be a good signing. Top scorer from the PL champions so hard to argue with that and would make a big change for Wenger. But then he's going to be 30 next season and only scored 5 league goals last season so was this season the one season of his life or could he do it again? The other main alternative being talked about is coming off a 7 league goal season and would cost 3 times the price.

Also with assault convictions and a history of racist incidents he's the type of scum Wenger doesn't usually go for. We do usually tend to sign players with a bit of class and not that sort of history, though there may be the odd exception I guess.

Mirth

invisibleman18 wrote:
Also with assault convictions and a history of racist incidents he's the type of scum Wenger doesn't usually go for. We do usually tend to sign players with a bit of class and not that sort of history, though there may be the odd exception I guess.

We bid for Suarez!

invisibleman18

Mirth wrote:
invisibleman18 wrote:
Also with assault convictions and a history of racist incidents he's the type of scum Wenger doesn't usually go for. We do usually tend to sign players with a bit of class and not that sort of history, though there may be the odd exception I guess.

We bid for Suarez!

True, one of the exceptions.

Mirth

Klaus wrote:
mdgoonah41 wrote:
i think vardy is actually okay. better than giroud probably, but hes a real short term signing. if we are planning on sorting our the mid term too, then fine, but this just seems odd. at least with kante he is young and you could sort of understand it. vardy is basically at his peak. its mostly downhill from here

People need to worry less about the long term. Most players we buy for the future don't amount to much in the end. We paid £16 million for Welbeck two years ago and that's money that we just pissed away. We could have just burned that cash in the stove instead. He will never turn into anything useful.

Paying £20 million for someone like Vardy and taking the 2 or 3 good seasons he'll immediately give us is brilliant business in comparison.

Agree with this. The club aren't in any danger of being financial mismanaged so I don't really care if they pay over the odds now and again.

Klaus

invisibleman18 wrote:
But then he's going to be 30 next season and only scored 5 league goals last season so was this season the one season of his life or could he do it again?

He didn't play as a striker the season before last to be fair. Ranieri stuck him up front when he arrived and that was that.

Vary makes sense to me. I think Wenger's comment about fast strikers the other day was a dead giveaway. It's in sync with his own actions lately too. In the last two years he has backed fast strikers in Welbeck and Walcott but both of them turned out to be lacking in quality.

lorddulaarsenal

What did wengs say about fast strikers Kla?

Mirth

Klaus wrote:
invisibleman18 wrote:
But then he's going to be 30 next season and only scored 5 league goals last season so was this season the one season of his life or could he do it again?

He didn't play as a striker the season before last to be fair. Ranieri stuck him up front when he arrived and that was that.

Vary makes sense to me. I think Wenger's comment about fast strikers the other day was a dead giveaway. It's in sync with his own actions lately too. In the last two years he has backed fast strikers in Welbeck and Walcott but both of them turned out to be lacking in quality. This time we're going for the best striker in the league last season. It could misfire again but it'd be a justified gamble in my opinion.

A manager should be applauded whether the gamble works out or not. Sure, it could backfire but at least he tried. Then next summer we can try again. And again. Till we finally sign a striker that gets us 30 goals and wins us the league.

I'd much prefer that to what we've done in the past few years. Plus Giroud, Welbeck, Sanchez and Vardy would give us a range of skills much like our options in midfield.

Incidentally I still think this story is wishful thinking.

Klaus

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
What did wengs say about fast strikers Kla?

Just some soundbites that Metro quoted, I think it might be from his pundit work during the international round the other day, but they were mildly interesting: http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/03/has-arsene-wenger-just-confirmed-that-olivier-giroud-isnt-the-right-man-for-arsenal-5921632/

‘What has happened is in the last 10 years, strikers have become quicker and quicker,’ Wenger explained.

‘What happened then? The defence responded by creating defenders who are quicker and quicker. So now to put in strikers who are slow, you have really a big problem.’

lorddulaarsenal

Ah right cheers. Explains the Gabriel signing too - pacey defender

ElGeniodeOviedo

Klaus wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
What did wengs say about fast strikers Kla?

Just some soundbites that Metro quoted, I think it might be from his pundit work during the international round the other day, but they were mildly interesting: http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/03/has-arsene-wenger-just-confirmed-that-olivier-giroud-isnt-the-right-man-for-arsenal-5921632/

‘What has happened is in the last 10 years, strikers have become quicker and quicker,’ Wenger explained.

‘What happened then? The defence responded by creating defenders who are quicker and quicker. So now to put in strikers who are slow, you have really a big problem.’

And yet he persisted with Giroud as his main striker for four years. Mental.

In fairness to Wenger, it did seem like he had Podolski in mind originally for his main #9. Wonder if we'll ever get the story why that was abandoned so quickly...

Mirth

Same reason Wenger gave up on playing Walcott up front. Both of them lack the presence to play as a lone striker despite being good finishers and having good movement. Compare the way they play that role to someone like Aguero who is shorter than both but constantly harasses defenders for 90 min

invisibleman18

Klaus wrote:
invisibleman18 wrote:
But then he's going to be 30 next season and only scored 5 league goals last season so was this season the one season of his life or could he do it again?

He didn't play as a striker the season before last to be fair. Ranieri stuck him up front when he arrived and that was that.

Ah right thanks, didn't realise that.

speedy

Wenger's retiring if we sign vardy.

It's like when Ferguson signed RVP. Wenger said he knew at that point he was going to retire at the end of the season.

Klaus

El Genio de Oviedo wrote:
And yet he persisted with Giroud as his main striker for four years. Mental.

In fairness to Wenger, it did seem like he had Podolski in mind originally for his main #9. Wonder if we'll ever get the story why that was abandoned so quickly...

Yeah, good point. Podolski was definitely intended as a centreforward option. So was Alexis Sanchez arguably, if you go back and listen to what Wenger said about him by the time he signed.

I think Wenger's biggest problem is that he slips back into his comfort zone the moment things are going well. He doesn't do more than he absolutely has to. He's prone to sticking with solutions that sort of work because his theory is that 'cohesion' is more important than quality (and you could say Leicester vindicated him somewhat this season), but he gets half of the equation wrong. The fact that a good team is bigger than the sum of its parts doesn't mean that you should build with substandard parts; it means the exact opposite. Greater individual parts still make for a greater whole if you combine them right. Your job as a manager is to get the parts and get them to gel.

Klaus

speedy wrote:
Wenger's retiring if we sign vardy.

Interesting observation since his contract is running out next summer.

Sicario

The white Ian Wright. Yes please.

Savz

2:55, cheeky dink over the keeper.

goon

This is exciting! Looks like Leicester winning the league might have been the kick up the backside Wenger needed.

speedy wrote:
Wenger's retiring if we sign vardy.

It's like when Ferguson signed RVP. Wenger said he knew at that point he was going to retire at the end of the season.

I don't think Wenger is the type to have that mentality. More likely Vardy just happens to be the best option out there.

« Previous Page Next Page »