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We fucking win the fucking league title 2016-17

General

Yup and to be honest I think we are defensively more balanced than we are going forward. Xhaka and Elneny have made us more sturdy in the middle and the only weakest link we have at the back is Monreal. Going forward we are relying on a lot of erratic or wasteful finishers, only Sanchez can be trusted for consistency, and it looks like we'd have to rely on Giroud once again. We could do with a one chance one goal Eduardo type finisher and I'm hoping Perez will eventually give us this towards the business end of the season.

est

goon wrote:
Those two late wins against Southampton and Burnley were huge, we'd be in 6th place (at best) without those wins and the mood would be very different. These small things can turn a season.

Good point.

The race is going to be really tight, that's why it's so important that we don't throw away points against our rivals like we did against Liverpool. That game still annoys me.

lorddulaarsenal

Ifs and buys though. Had we beaten Leicester and Liverpool we'd be unzipping our flies right about now

est

'The mood would be different' still applies, doesn't it? :hat:

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

est wrote:
goon wrote:
Those two late wins against Southampton and Burnley were huge, we'd be in 6th place (at best) without those wins and the mood would be very different. These small things can turn a season.

Good point.

The race is going to be really tight, that's why it's so important that we don't throw away points against our rivals like we did against Liverpool. That game still annoys me.

Me too. Wenger needs to figure Klopposition out, in general.

Clrnc

Very crucial month for us. Almost a make or break if we can break out of this pattern

Qwiss

How long is that over?

Clrnc

The entire Wenger reign.

Meatwad

now that's a man who is confident in his methods whether good or bad. wenger walking around like "can't tell me nothing."

Clrnc

Another interesting data prediction by Gracenote. They took into account of the start currently, the average points and h2h results of respective clubs in the past 4 seasons to come up with this.

Meatwad

i'd love that top 4. honestly since we're so shit at commercial deals and with gazidis running thing we have no hope of getting significantly better, instead i want united to fall back to the pack a little bit and there are supposedly some clauses for missing out on the CL for two consecutive years.

General

The winner will have to hit 80points and above. I'd be very surprised if 78points win it.

Art

Liverpool have the advantage over us since most of the tough fixtures we've played have been at home and theirs away. They don't have midweek games to worry about either. Could be their year if Guardiola messes up.

Klaus

They have much worse players though. Their squad is barely top 4 quality.

Art

So was Leicester's and Liverpool 13-14 when they cam a slip away from winning it. Being able to concentrate mostly on only one competition seems to go a long way making up for the deficit in quality. Eitherway I'm worried about our second half of the season, reminds me of 13-14 again when we were leading by Christmas but after playing all the big teams away in the second half we ended up barely clinching top four.

Big Willie

Art wrote:
So was Leicester's and Liverpool 13-14 when they cam a slip away from winning it. Being able to concentrate mostly on only one competition seems to go a long way making up for the deficit in quality. Eitherway I'm worried about our second half of the season, reminds me of 13-14 again when we were leading by Christmas but after playing all the big teams away in the second half we ended up barely clinching top four.

We lost in 2013/14 because we went on a 9 or 10 game run where we only won 2 games to all types of opposition, both home and away. We lost to Chelsea and Liverpool away during that time but we also lost to away to smaller teams like Stoke and Everton away. Even at home we weren't doing the business dropping points at home to City, United as well as the likes of Swansea during that same period.

It's all and good and well saying we have played home a lot vs away and because of that our chances are not that good, but away games against the top teams are like maybe 4 or 5 games a season, with another 30 odd games left to do the real donkey work. If you do the job against the small to medium teams and remember to perform against the big sides at home then the away form against the top teams isn't as crucial. Many teams have built successful, title winning seasons based on that.

goon

Yeah, the idea that we'd have beaten Chelsea and Liverpool instead of losing by a 4/5 goal margin if the games were at home is a little out there. Our level had dropped significantly by then anyway.

Clrnc

That season title hopes was actually killed by our home form in comparison to our rivals.

Klaus

Art wrote:
So was Leicester's and Liverpool 13-14 when they cam a slip away from winning it.

Right, and there's a reason that feat is virtually unmatched in the history of the sport at this level.

For Liverpool to win the league this year the rest would have to screw up massively. Everyone keeps saying that extra games are such a burden, but 99 times out of 100 the Premier League winners end up playing 15-20 games more than most of their opponents across a season. If resting midweek were as big an advantage as people imagine it to be, the league would constantly be won by non-CL teams. But there's only one such example on record. The reality is that Liverpool don't have those extra games because they're not good enough.

QuincyAbeyie

To be fair, they don't have those extra games because they weren't good enough last season. Not that I think they'll win the league.

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