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flobaba

Lukaku is absolutely the wrong profile of player to be signing or thinking about at this time. We have an opportunity to do a hard reset on this team/ squad.
Let’s not waste it.

Qwiss

Like I say he's too old but he's the sort of player we need up top, that sort of size, athleticism, goal scoring ability, etc

Claudius

Qwiss! wrote:
Like I say he's too old but he's the sort of player we need up top, that sort of size, athleticism, goal scoring ability, etc

Would be nice

lorddulaarsenal

Definitely his power.

lorddulaarsenal

Anyways time to set up camp in here for a couple of months

Meatwad

Qwiss! wrote:
Anzac wrote:
Not only this but we need a CF/ST who fits the style of play = no more square pegs regardless of their quality.

As things stand Laca is the better fit as a lone CF but IMO neither are ideal, and we'd need to change our play (in both transition through the middle 3rd and also in the Final 3rd), if we wanted to get the best from either of them.

We need a big man to get on crosses but who can play too. I wouldn't say no to Lukaku. Though he might be a bit old.

he just turned 28. he's not too old. if you get rid of laca and auba and replace them with him you've just lowered your average age and wage bill.

Claudius

He’s 28 with a dozen years of wear and tear. He used to leave high school on Wednesday to go play his professional games. Definitely don’t want. But I love watching him play

Qwiss

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Anyways time to set up camp in here for a couple of months

Your favourite time of the year. 😆

DKGooner

If Laca and Nketiah leave, I don't think it's essential we get a striker in with Balogun and Martinelli as cover (even if most prefer the latter on the wing). With a more restrictive budget, I wouldn't be averse to us bringing in someone like Chris Wood from Burnley if we did want extra cover. Shouldn't be that expensive, definitely provides a different option up top in the short term and already used to the league.

Sicario

Graham Potter as manager?

Sign Chris Wood?

What next, get Joey Barton as DOF?

What happened to having standards?

QuincyAbeyie

"Standards" are worthless. You look at what you have. Regardless of who you think is the best manager out of Potter and Arteta it's clear as day that Potter's CV is better than Arteta's was when we hired him. So how does this standard work then?

Klaus

Our standards nowadays apparently mean being happy about finishing 8th and signing unwanted players from clubs that should be our direct rivals. I think that's a bit more damning than people wishlisting a manager who's done well on Premier League's worst budget for a club that had nothing going for it and looked ready to crash down through the divisions when he took over.

Sicario

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
"Standards" are worthless. You look at what you have. Regardless of who you think is the best manager out of Potter and Arteta it's clear as day that Potter's CV is better than Arteta's was when we hired him. So how does this standard work then?

Yeah and there is a reason why Potter is managing Brighton.

Klaus

I think that reason is connected to him having to prove himself in order to be given better jobs though, because he doesn't have the sort of contacts who can put him in charge of a top club before he has ever managed a team for a single minute on a football pitch.

If he left Brighton today, do you think he would get offers from clubs that are better than they are?

DKGooner

Sicario wrote:
Graham Potter as manager?

Sign Chris Wood?

What next, get Joey Barton as DOF?

What happened to having standards?

We are out of Europe and have been away from the CL for long enough for prospective signings to view our chances of returning to it as a slight possibility than any real expectation. Our transfer budget is going to have to stretch a long way and that will likely mean back up positions being weaker than we have been used to if we can at least put the bulk into better quality starting XI players. As long as Auba is here, I can't realistically see what striker we can get in on our budget that would be good enough to relegate him back to the wing. Also if you believe we had to make an effort to keep Balogun, then we need to ensure that he has a viable path to first team football particularly with no extra games in Europe. Chris Wood has been getting 10+ goals for a Burnley team and is more than useful as a target style front man.

Sicario

Klaus wrote:
Our standards nowadays apparently mean being happy about finishing 8th and signing unwanted players from clubs that should be our direct rivals. I think that's a bit more damning than people wishlisting a manager who's done well on Premier League's worst budget for a club that had nothing going for it and looked ready to crash down through the divisions when he took over.

Some people celebrated being hopelessly behind in the league in February because they figured it'd mean we would do great in Europa League, and then the same people celebrated being out of Europe altogether because they think it's going to make us amazing in the league next season. Now they've moved on to shitting on others for thinking that there might be other managers out there who could do better with the same resources. It follows a certain pattern of always being exactly wrong.

Potter is not Arsenal material mate.

Brighton finished 15th in 2017-2018, he's never got them above that position since his time here. Chris Wilder got Sheffield Utd, with a lower budget to 9th last season, should we go for him as well?

For the second part of your post, this is not a points contest re right v wrong. In football things change and you have to adapt expectations accordingly.

Sicario

Klaus wrote:
I think that reason is connected to him having to prove himself in order to be given better jobs though, because he doesn't have the sort of contacts who can put him in charge of a top club before he has ever managed a team for a single minute on a football pitch.

If he left Brighton today, do you think he would get offers from clubs that are better than they are?

What is your obsession with this guy? Arteta did the double over him this season anyway.

If you go to Brighton forum (i did once as I was doing research for player i was considering for Fantasy Football) and there are 30 plus page 'Potter Out' threads. He is not even universally loved by his own fans and here you are acting like he is the next Arsene Wenger.

There is a reason no top teams have touched him.

Klaus

Sicario wrote:
Klaus wrote:
I think that reason is connected to him having to prove himself in order to be given better jobs though, because he doesn't have the sort of contacts who can put him in charge of a top club before he has ever managed a team for a single minute on a football pitch.

If he left Brighton today, do you think he would get offers from clubs that are better than they are?

What is your obsession with this guy?

How about you answer the question instead? Do you reckon bigger teams would be in for him if he left Brighton this summer or do you think he'll only be able to get jobs in the Championship?

If it's the former then clearly the reason he is at Brighton isn't because no one else will have him, which makes your statement ridiculous.

Sicario

Klaus wrote:
Sicario wrote:
What is your obsession with this guy?

How about you answer the question instead? Do you reckon bigger teams would be in for him if he left Brighton this summer or do you think he'll only be able to get jobs in the Championship?

If it's the former then clearly the reason he is at Brighton isn't because no one else will have him, which makes your statement ridiculous.

Quite frankly I dont care if he stays or if 'bigger' clubs are in for him. Its immaterial. The bottom line is, and I repeat, he is NOT Arsenal material. If you want to continue to jerk over him be my guest but he should NEVER manager our club. Ever.

Last I will say on this matter.

Klaus

You can keep comment or not comment, it honestly doesn't matter to me. I'm just addressing the point you made about there being a reason he's at Brighton, which really wasn't a point at all.

Sicario wrote:
If you go to Brighton forum (i did once as I was doing research for player i was considering for Fantasy Football) and there are 30 plus page 'Potter Out' threads.

As for this point, I looked around just for the sake of it, and here's a 17-page thread where 80 percent of their fans seem to rate the season as at least 6/10: https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?388085-Marks-out-of-10-for-this-season&s=d138baa2b746930a6b3df4b256ee5dd1

Here's a 50-page thread from the same forum where most of them don't seem to want him to leave for the Spurs job: https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?387478-Seem-Tottenham-Fans-Seem-Interested-In-Mr-Potter&s=d138baa2b746930a6b3df4b256ee5dd1

Maybe they don't share your views on what he's done during his time there.

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