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Claudius

we have a very average squad. Lots of average players. We can afford to sell some of this stock, and replace with a combination of superstars and cheap players. The Joel Campbell deal this week perfectly illustrates our issues. I would keep Campbell, and replace OxCott with a superstar who would first choice. They offer £230k in wages per week that is more than enough to fund a star. We can do this across the club with players like Gibbs, Gabriel, etc.

Captain

It's not very average in the slightest. The way some of you carry on is like we have come 10th for the last decade.

We need big, big players on top of what we have to push the envelope.

Rex

Pretty much. Just need to look at Man U this year compared to last year; I think it is very fair to say that Man U last year was very, very average, and had a much inferior squad to ours. One Zlatan and one Pogba later and they look sooooo much better, and genuine title contenders. At least initially. A class striker for us on top of what we have and I'd say we have a better squad than them though.

Claudius

Captain wrote:
It's not very average in the slightest. The way some of you carry on is like we have come 10th for the last decade.

We need big, big players on top of what we have to push the envelope.

Depends what your comparables are. If you want to compare us to the top 10 clubs in the world, then we have an average team. If you want to compare us to the Burnleys of the world as you have, then it is a superior team. With good coaching we have a good enough team to win the league, but we are not good enough to beat 2 or 3 of the big clubs in the last 4 rounds of the Champions League.

We definitely need to increase our representation of super quality players. Sanchez/Ozil is nowhere near enough. And I am confident that we can raise 40-60m pounds by selling seldom-used players or guys who are too high up in the pecking order for their talent levels

Captain

Very average and good enough to win the league don't match up no matter how you dress it. Bottom line is that the squad is good but needs top class additions, hence why we shouldn't be wasting big transfer fees on average players, which was my one and only point.

Claudius

How would you describe Leicester's squad? They're very close to your average. About the 6th-8th best squad in the league. But they won the league because they were well coached. If we had a semblance of management last season, we would've walked the league. Given how things are in flux for a number of teams, it is possible to win this premier league now with an inadequate squad, as long as you manage it well. This is possible because there are about 10 bad teams in the league, and another 5 or 6 we should feel confident of beating every time if we are well organised and healthy.

The same cannot be said for Europe. Once you get out of the group stage, you face a gauntlet of the best clubs in the world. If your squad is of average quality, you will not win three straight rounds against Juventus, Barca and Bayern. Make sense?

Captain

One outlier doesn't make for an argument.

And no, the champs league is absolutely not the measure of a team. You can win that shit by winning one game.

Claudius

Of course, Capi. This is precisely why semi-final appearances in this competition have been dominated by the three biggest clubs in Europe of late: Bayern, Real and Barca. Let's see Wenger fluke the champions league.

Coombs

Captain wrote:
Very average and good enough to win the league don't match up no matter how you dress it. Bottom line is that the squad is good but needs top class additions, hence why we shouldn't be wasting big transfer fees on average players, which was my one and only point.

See, the squad isn't "good". You're dead wrong about that. It's so bad, in fact, that there aren't even enough players for the positions on the pitch that Wenger has set the team up to play.

I'd kill for a few so-called "average" players to actually play the positions we need filled.

Rex

How weird.

Coombs

Centreback? Forward? We don't even have the numbers ffs. Counting Sanogo is basically admitting you're full of shit, which Wenger is still doing.

Lacazette for 50m euros would be absolutely fine with me. Mustafi for 30 sounds great too. Go to Atletico with 100m for Griezmann, now that's what I'd do.

mdgoonah41

houseboat link below

Arsenal have turned their attention to Yacine Brahimi after missing out on Riyad Mahrez, according to the Sunday Mirror.

The Algeria international was left out of Porto's Champions League squad in midweek and is keen to leave the club, with Liverpool and Chelsea also interested.

Porto are willing to sell Brahimi for £40 million and Arsene Wenger is considering a move after Mahrez signed a new deal wit Premier League champions Leicester City.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/11562/transfer-talk/2016/08/20/26719542/rumours-arsenal-turn-to-brahimi-after-mahrez-snub

Bryant

I remember a few posters rating Brahimi highly?

I'd welcome him, at least he'll put Walcott on the bench.

Rex

You'd not only welcome him, but you are also sure he'd put Walcott on the bench - based on a hunch a few posters rated him before. Legit.

mdgoonah41

lorddulaarsenal

I'd welcome Brahimi. We don't have a box of tricks in the team.

Cannon

Guesses for who is the 'madness' or mystery attacker we are looking to bring in..? We know it has to be a forward but no one has a clue if he is a CF or a WF.

I think it could be Draxler. Known target, a style of play that would suit Arsenal and someone who is on record to be wanting a move. Who else?

mdgoonah41

Cannon wrote:
Guesses for who is the 'madness' or mystery attacker we are looking to bring in..? We know it has to be a forward but no one has a clue if he is a CF or a WF.

I think it could be Draxler. Known target, a style of play that would suit Arsenal and someone who is on record to be wanting a move. Who else?

the trolls on twitter have been hinting its a huge name. draxler is a good talent, but hes not a world class elite player yet. of course they are just winding everyone up, we'll sign mustafi, maybe, and thats it.

Gazza M

mdgoonah41 wrote:

porto are like lyon when it comes to player valuation. cant see us ever buying fom them

Cannon

mdgoonah41 wrote:
Cannon wrote:
Guesses for who is the 'madness' or mystery attacker we are looking to bring in..? We know it has to be a forward but no one has a clue if he is a CF or a WF.

I think it could be Draxler. Known target, a style of play that would suit Arsenal and someone who is on record to be wanting a move. Who else?

the trolls on twitter have been hinting its a huge name. draxler is a good talent, but hes not a world class elite player yet. of course they are just winding everyone up, we'll sign mustafi, maybe, and thats it.

I would assume there has to be some level of talks/negotiations with this 'madness'. However we have been linked with no BIG names that is very surprising to me..!

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