Yes, what QS said.

The whole - "we have to go and get a White Walker to prove to Cersei (and probably Dany) that they're real" - storyline is annoying. Just fly a bloody dragon over the wall and have a look.

And it really looks like they're going to drag out the "secret" of Jon's parentage as long as possible. I suppose Bran can't send a raven to Jon with that info as it's too confidential, but still, Jon should be aware of this by now.

I liked seeing Gilly back too, and her revelation to Sam was nicely thrown in.

What was the letter?

the letter that cersei made sansa write in the first season... when ned is captured she made sansa write a letter to Rob.

Does GRRM still have a say on how the show plays out or ends? Will his version of events be different? Not really liking the new season if I'm being honest. We've had some great scenes and I'll see it through its end catching every episode as soon as its out but I'd be lying if I said that I'm not disappointed. The LF, Arya, Sansa storyline is dull AF. I'm actually glad they've made Dany a bit of a mad bitch but you just know they'll reign her in eventually. Bronn and Jaime getting away is just plain dumb too. You'd imagine Dany would have had him hunted knowing exactly where he had fallen. Cersei's character has been under utilised this season. You'd have thought she'd play a more central role after the way she brilliantly ended season 6. Instead she sits in a room with a banker and fucks her brother. They've butchered Tyrion. Use to look forward seeing him on screen. Not so much anymore. Then there's the Walkers who take an eternity to go anywhere and yet other characters on the show move at breakneck speed. Why introduce the Tarly's only to kill them before they do anything? Jon and his arc is the best thing going for the show at the moment. Everything else is just a little dull. Also, how pointless are the Greyjoy's? So many hours of screen time wasted on them.

i knew pacing would be a huge problem in this last run of episodes

the plot to capture a wight is one of the most moronic things the show has ever done. at least it will provide an action packed episode

The idea of capturing one to get everyone to wake up to the reality of the situation isn't so bad, the only weird aspect is Cersei and the fact that it's the whole basis around their plan.

I agree that the whol thing's mad, however it makes the sequence of things to come potentially interesting. We all assumed Cersei would be wiped out before the final battle vs the white walkers. It would be a huge surprise if there's a cease-fire while that battle happens, enabling Cersei to survive to the end and possibly develop a trump card. It's still odds on that she loses, because of the valonqar prophecy, but keeping her in the game until post-white walker war is not something I expected.

I'm really enjoying this season. Good fun and moving fast, plus not as weighed down by the books. I don't tend to take the show very seriously or over analyse the plot etc. That combo of characters going beyond the wall should get pretty interesting. I also don't mind the Sansa/Arya/Littlefinger bits either - could go a number of ways.

Littlefinger has kind of been ruined as a character. Too much smirking.

I predict the Band without Banners will all die, as will red beard. Hound will survive so he can return to Kings Landing for Cleganebowl. Gendry might die too because it seems like he was forgotten about, or Martin lost interest in him over the course of the books. Jon and Jorah survive just cos. Oh and maybe the lads use the Lord of Light to resurrect someone.

I hope Gendry doesn't snuff it yet. Would make him a very pointless character.

Shady wrote:

The teleportation is just silly now. Anyone can get anywhere in the blink of an eye.

Yeah. This is really detracting from the sense of scale for me, makes the whole thing feel like it's taking place on a set a couple of hundred metres across. Which is a shame because of all the shooting on diverse locations they seem to do!

This show is a bit of a let down, but I'm glad it's rattling along, I'll be pleased when it's finally over.

For a minute I thought Gendry was played by Christian Bale.

haha 😆 now that you put that in my mind, I cant see it any other way.

banduan wrote:

For a minute I thought Gendry was played by Christian Bale.

I got mad fassbender vibes. must be the weight loss

Qwiss! wrote:

I predict the Band without Banners will all die, as will red beard.

The priest who resurrects people will probably die and maybe Beric Dondarrion too (honestly, what's the point of him on the show?) but i can't see Tormund bite it. He's the main reason the wildlings accept the truce with Jon and the watch.

When I saw Gendry I thought it was Podrick actually. Podrick looks like he's become chubbier in recent seasons but I always used to think he was the bastard who fled Kings Landing with Arya all those years ago.

Was wondering how he lost weight and ended up back in the steel factory so quickly acter being in Winterfell a couple episodes ago. So yeah, guess there are two of them now lol.

Yeah I got caught by that too.

I'm thinking the end of this bit of the season is going to have to heavily foreshadow the prophecy elements, so quite probably something that relates to that will happen out beyond the Wall.

Klaus wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:

I predict the Band without Banners will all die, as will red beard.

The priest who resurrects people will probably die and maybe Beric Dondarrion too (honestly, what's the point of him on the show?) but i can't see Tormund bite it. He's the main reason the wildlings accept the truce with Jon and the watch.

I heard others saying Tormund can't die because he's the only narrative link to the wildling army but I don't think it matters. We don't have a single Dothraki character of note any more.