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flobaba

If Arya is just going to go back to Winterfell, what's the point of her? Revenge for the Red Wedding, that's it?

They spent way too much unnecessary time on Grey worm and his slave mistress compared to their relevance in the scheme of things.

They should have killed off Reek in the water somehow. What purpose does he serve now?

Dany is going to go power hungry, and end up like her father somehow... I'm rooting for Jon at the end of it all as he is basically the only decent protagonist left, but I don't see the show giving me that satisfaction.

banduan

Said From season 1 that Jaime and Dany were in mirror arcs. Kinda poetic.

Asterix

Oh, what was with the wolves if it wasn't Arya's Dire Wolf?

Ok, sorry - did my own research - poor posting form, but here's an answer - https://www.vox.com/2017/7/23/16017680/game-of-thrones-arya-direwolf-nymeria-stormborn

Claudius

I rewally enjoyed this episode. Probably moved at twice the speed I expected in terms of alliance-building. Great seeing Lord Baelish with Jon's little fingers around his neck. I wonder what he will try to cook up with Sansa while Jon is away. Sansa looks like she could become power drunk quite easily.
Fight scene was cool. So unexpected, with only a few minutes left and an awesome naval battle erupts. Fucking Reek.

Will be interesting to see what happens to Jon. will Dany care about his walkers? Will he be usurped while away? Can't wait for episode 3

Qwiss

To tie into the Dany is a bad guy idea I liked that Dany and Cersei both sent Jon letters demanding he bent the knee.

goon

That scene with Dany was a perfect example of her hunger for power shining through, her seeing Jon as a potential threat rather than a potential ally.

I wonder if Jon will meet the Dragons...

Jens

I'm pleased where the story seems to be headed, even though I didn't find either episode to be particularly good television on their own. But there is no denying they are moving the pieces neatly into place at the moment. Dany is an infinitely more interesting character now that her motives are finally being brought into question, and Sansa looks to be heading the same way. Is there a Stark sisters conflict brewing where Arya will see Sansa turning her back on Jon and react? Remember Arya was the one who always considered Jon her brother, while Sansa couldn't care less about him.

Jens

goon wrote:
I wonder if Jon will meet the Dragons...

Good shout, I'm thinking no doubt he will, Tyrion will be there too, see how the Dragons don't attack Jon and start putting two and two together about their shared heritage.

Jens

Qwiss! wrote:
Decent episode.i thought the final battle scene was a bit choppy and dark. Theon still being a coward was good too. I want no redemption arc for him.

That Greyworm scene really killed the episodes momentum. Those 2 are so bloody pointless.

Sam is getting some pretty gross scenes this season. Glad his story is moving along though.

All good points. Grey Worm and Missandei are horrendously dull characters who have been strung along for way too long but hopefully this brings their "arc" to an end. Missandei is outrageously gorgeous though it has to be said. So it's not all bad.

Shady

Missandei*

Jens

Shady wrote:
Missandei*

That's the one.

Claudius

A few more thoughts the day after watching it

The Arya scene. I assume that was her wolf. When she says "it's not you" at the end, is she referring to the wolf or herself; and if the latter, does that have an impact on her journey to Winterfell. Maybe the wolf's rejection points to her that she is no longer Arya. She is nobody now
The wry smile on Lord Baelish after he's pushed by Jon Snow is probably because it's a reminder of Ned Stark pushing Baelish in season 1. He probably assumes that Jon is as easy to manipulate into an unfortunate end as his old man. Hopefully, Jon proves otherwise, but I suspect Jon will go down before he goes up again
The sea battle. I loved it. But I'm still wondering, what kind of large ship fleet sails at night with everybody drinking and conquering vaginas below deck instead of keeping a lookout for enemies. That an entire fleet was surprised by Euron is the one big hole in the episode. Anyone else still wondering about that?

Jens

Claudius wrote:
A few more thoughts the day after watching it

The Arya scene. I assume that was her wolf. When she says "it's not you" at the end, is she referring to the wolf or herself; and if the latter, does that have an impact on her journey to Winterfell. Maybe the wolf's rejection points to her that she is no longer Arya. She is nobody now

It was definitely Aryas wolf, the "that's not you" comment refers to the nature of the direwolf, it's been in the wild for too long and can no longer be domesticated. Thinking about it, it'll also probably serve as a metaphor for Aryas journey, just like the wolf can't go north neither can she, she is no longer a little noble girl but a trained killer. I wouldn't be surprised if she turns back around for Kings Landing by the next episode.

goon

Yeah, I don't really know what her role in Winterfel would be anyway. She's not a politician or a leader type. Feels like she's just be a spare part.

Claudius

That's what I'm wondering. If it's not her and she has no role in Winterfell, then she must continue her journey as a bastardised faceless man. Off to assassinate Cersei and other members of her kill list.
This brings us back to what was considered a silly scene last week. It was then she announced her true intent in life - kill Cersei, comical as that seemed to the Lannister soldiers. In any case, the plotline has sent Jon away from Winterfell and Bram is in the Wall, so there wouldn't be a real reunion anyway. If the reunion is to happen, it will be next season

flobaba

The producers explained the scene with the direwolf, tying it back to when she was a little girl with her dad, Eddard Stark who sat her down one day to talk to her about growing into a prim and proper court lady (perhaps more like Sansa). To which she answered: "That's not me".

Jens is essentially correct.

flobaba

Claudius wrote:
If the reunion is to happen, it will be next season

I was under the impression this is the final season

Claudius

It's like the conclusion of Breaking Bad, oga: 2 shortened seasons. So you will get 7 episodes now, and 7 episodes next summer.

QuincyAbeyie

Without trying to be pedantic, GoT has season 7 and 8 while Breaking Bad just had a long break between the first and second half of the season.

Claudius

flobaba wrote:
The producers explained the scene with the direwolf, tying it back to when she was a little girl with her dad, Eddard Stark who sat her down one day to talk to her about growing into a prim and proper court lady (perhaps more like Sansa). To which she answered: "That's not me".

Jens is essentially correct.

which means it makes sense that she abandons her journey home for now.

so to Kings Landing she goes. along with Yara, the Sand snakes, Theon presumably, Euron, and the army from Highgarden. should be a party out there in the next few episodes. possibly, the capture of Yara also compels Dany to send her dragons into Cersei's crossbow trap

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