Maybe, but I haven't seen much from Benioff and Weiss that makes me think there's any deeper motivation behind most of the stuff they pull on the show. The whole rape thing was bulllshit to begin with. It wasn't in Martin's version, and she didn't get married to the abusive bastard either. The tv show seemed to do that mostly because they didn't have much else for the character to do at that point in the story. In the books she's still residing at the Gates of the Moon.

Thats true about B&W and it makes me wonder how they'll manage this season without a book to guide them. "Hey guys what if the white walkers could rape women with big icicle dicks?"

Surely Martin is sharing his scaffolding for the rest of the story with them? Or has there been some kind of statement the show and books are going to head in completely different directions now?

I think they have confirmed that Martin has shared his intentions with them, and the general story is going to go down the same route as a result, but events may unfold differently and minor/supporting characters might be written out or ignored altogether (consider Lady Stoneheart, for instance).

Like qs I worry about what B&W will do now that there's nothing to really hold them back. On one hand I think they mostly made a good decision when they decided to cut away a lot of the tedious stories last season. I fucking hated Jorah and Tyrion's shared journey in the books. But the show-exclusive stuff that they gave us in return, like Jaime and Bronn's kidnapping quest or the Sansa/Ramsay rape-marriage, was pretty hamfisted and all around terrible. They don't strike me as particularly good storytellers.

I'm entirely sure that they'll royally fuck everything up. I'm still majorly peeved that the next bit of the story is being portrayed on television first.

The bright side of getting ahead of the books is they wont have to drag out nothing stories with whoever isn't doing anything in the books just to keep their stars on screen. So now maybe Dany can stop being a tiresome, sanctimonious bore.

Tottenham Hotspurs - White walkers. 😆

That's exactly how it'll fucking feel if they win.

Arsenal should be Lord Varys, after all we're run by a gaggle of eunuchs.

Varys is a highly intelligent tactician though. Arsenal are more like that Lannister cousin, Orson, who was sitting in his garden and crushing beetles all day with a rock while shouting his own name. And the fans are like Tyrion, who observes him closely and becomes obsessed with finding a rational explanation for the mindless behaviour to the point where he almost goes mad.

Well, at least when we think of Wenger we have the consolation that valar morghulis.

😆

Good stuff fellas good stuff.....

6 days later

When the review was finally completed we were treated to plenty of killing and some more hot nude shots of the Red Witch, but we are still no clearer on Jon Snows fate.

Just watched it, and I'm pretty underwhelmed so far. Needs to pick up a lot of speed.

is this thread a safe space for spoilerful chat about the latest ep?

Gazza M wrote:

is this thread a safe space for spoilerful chat about the latest ep?

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Biggus wrote:

When the review was finally completed we were treated to plenty of killing and some more hot nude shots of the Red Witch, but we are still no clearer on Jon Snows fate.

Did you like her more before or after she took her necklace off Biggus?