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Klopp, Ancelotti or wait n hitch our skirt up to Pep

SimplyThePest

Yeah, was going to say. It would've been a lot more impressive if they'd held onto the lead and showed some resilience on the back foot.

And I was complaining about Bournemouth under Howe leaking like a sieve!

Klaus

Don't get me wrong, Jardim would be my first choice right now. I just don't think he deserves credit for losing a game and letting in five goals.

SimplyThePest

Agree.

General

If this club has any ambition it would do its best to land Simeone. None of the candidates mentioned feel me with much confidence.

Claudius

Klaus wrote:
Don't get me wrong, Jardim would be my first choice right now. I just don't think he deserves credit for losing a game and letting in five goals.

Jose, is that you?

Jed

Sampaoli or Simeone.

The added advantage is the fact our best player would most likely want to stay put with either of them taking over.

Anzac

http://eplindex.com/79344/italian-solution-arsenal.html

http://www.justarsenal.com/who-fancies-the-monaco-manager-at-arsenal/69802

Clrnc

SimplyThePest wrote:
Yeah, was going to say. It would've been a lot more impressive if they'd held onto the lead and showed some resilience on the back foot.

And I was complaining about Bournemouth under Howe leaking like a sieve!

Tactically he was spot on though. Falcao's penalty miss screwed him up. 3-1 at that stage it's game over.

Monaco's players don't seem to be able to cope with the intensity late on. They play in a weaker league so their stamina suffered compared to City.

Anyway FWIW, most of the Monaco players would start for us anyway.

lorddulaarsenal

Their attack and fullbacks were impressive - their centrebacks look suspect mind

General

I think you are getting a bit carried away Clrnc. Monaco were too open and lacked control which is why they were bolloxed towards the end. It was the lack of control rather than stamina that cost them and they displayed the same weakness we often accuse our team of. The game was too open and I'm not sure they would've been capable of closing it out at 3-1. I was very impressed with their ball playing full backs but their defence was all over the place and their keeper is average. The return leg is going to be interesting because I think the tie is far from over.

Clrnc

General wrote:
I think you are getting a bit carried away Clrnc. Monaco were too open and lacked control which is why they were bolloxed towards the end. It was the lack of control rather than stamina that cost them and they displayed the same weakness we often accuse our team of. The game was too open and I'm not sure they would've been capable of closing it out at 3-1. I was very impressed with their ball playing full backs but their defence was all over the place and their keeper is average. The return leg is going to be interesting because I think the tie is far from over.

You haven't watched Monaco all season have you? They are very capable of closing up shop, Jardim likes his teams to be compact and play on the counter. They struggle only when they are forced to take the initiative and dominate possession. They haven't been that different to when they played us 2 years ago, stay compact and hit on the break.

They were fucked by Falcao's penalty miss and at the same time the awful Subasic making a pub error. After 70th minute, a lot of their players looked completely out of breath, especially Sidibe and Mendy the fullbacks which made them extremely open.

General

Clrnc wrote:
General wrote:
I think you are getting a bit carried away Clrnc. Monaco were too open and lacked control which is why they were bolloxed towards the end. It was the lack of control rather than stamina that cost them and they displayed the same weakness we often accuse our team of. The game was too open and I'm not sure they would've been capable of closing it out at 3-1. I was very impressed with their ball playing full backs but their defence was all over the place and their keeper is average. The return leg is going to be interesting because I think the tie is far from over.

You haven't watched Monaco all season have you? They are very capable of closing up shop, Jardim likes his teams to be compact and play on the counter. They struggle only when they are forced to take the initiative and dominate possession. They haven't been that different to when they played us 2 years ago, stay compact and hit on the break.

They were fucked by Falcao's penalty miss and at the same time the awful Subasic making a pub error. After 70th minute, a lot of their players looked completely out of breath, especially Sidibe and Mendy the fullbacks which made them extremely open.

You said it yourself, the French league is relatively weak and it's at this level that you see what some of these teams are made of. They came out of a relatively weak group and got exposed at Leverkusen who are struggling a bit this season.

Don't get me wrong, I was impressed by some of the things I saw but I also thought they had some structural flaws. They were still leading despite Falcao's penalty miss and their game management completely collapsed despite taking the lead again at 3-2. We went and played like this at City a couple of years ago and lost 6-3.

Clrnc

General wrote:
You said it yourself, the French league is relatively weak and it's at this level that you see what some of these teams are made of. They came out of a relatively weak group and got exposed at Leverkusen who are struggling a bit this season.

Don't get me wrong, I was impressed by some of the things I saw but I also thought they had some structural flaws. They were still leading despite Falcao's penalty miss and their game management completely collapsed despite taking the lead again at 3-2. We went and played like this at City a couple of years ago and lost 6-3.

For the majority of the match I thought Jardim got his tactics and shape spot on. Tiredness clearly played a factor, as well as mentally it was difficult for some Monaco players, having had the opportunity to get to 3-1, their keeper fumbled and it's 2-2, huge difference.

It's worth noting that 2 of City's goals came from corners at crucial time. Monaco's concentration levels clearly dropped after they got tired, and without their best defender Jemerson it makes a difference.

Despite French League not being as good as PL, Monaco has been much better than PSG this season, who outplayed us in both match for some perspective of the levels they are at. They played a complete reserve team at Leverkusen after winning the group.

General

They displayed some of the shortcomings that regularly cost us on match days. Had we surrendered the lead in the manner they did there would've been chaos on here. Their inability to close out the game is what separates the good teams from the top teams. A good team they are but let's not go overboard and start making them out to be like the second coming of the Harlem globetrotters. They didn't beat Leverkusen in both ties at the group stage and emerged top of their group with the lowest points tally out of all the group winners together with Napoli. It's obvious PSG's main objective is to win the CL this season but I still see them eventually winning the French league. It's not like Monaco are running away with it.

Clrnc

General wrote:
A good team they are but let's not go overboard and start making them out to be like the second coming of the Harlem globetrotters.

Nobody did to be fair.

General

Yes in the match day thread prematurely before they caved in.

Clrnc

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Come on, there were many praises of how good their players are and the team in that thread, nobody said they were Barcelona or something.

General

Lol confessions.

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
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Come on, there were many praises of how good their players are and the team in that thread, nobody said they were Barcelona or something.

Thats because they didn't lose 4-0

Anzac

They'd have to have about the youngest side left in either UEFA comp this season, which considering the money around and the talent they've lost (akin to Saints), makes it all the more remarkable.
Agreed they needed some old heads and some smarts to have avoided the loss by 2 goals,
however I'd rather be in their position than ours.

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