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MistaT

For all of you Wire lovers, be sure to check out Treme.

Set in New Orleans after Katrina with a similar "main character as a city" as Burns called out

Gazza M

Burnwinter there's a newer interview with a popular tolkien fan channel where they are more explicit about the subject. the fact they didn't have this plan in place for the character until they started planning season 2 ties into my larger gripes about the narrative. introducing mystery boxes when you're adapting such well established characters just feels like an unnecessary crutch.

Burnwinter

Gazza M Link please? I'm so curious now. Not having a go at you but I genuinely can't credit the identity of the Stranger was not decided in principle (perhaps with some sort of emergency lever left in place) between the two showrunners in advance of production ... and I can't bring myself to make that interpretation of the quotes in the other link above.

I'd be gobsmacked if that was the case but I'm very interested to check it out now.

Gazza M

from around 3:00 minutes onwards. pretty clear cut stuff imo. there was no plan for the stranger beyond 'we want to throw a wizard and some halflings together' to tap into some memberberries, and figure out the rest later

mdgoonah41

mdgoonah41 season 3 has to be most insane season in terms of the plot

mcnulty fucking over daniels to steer the MCU back to barksdale
bunny colvin becomes a major character and creates hamsterdam and sees it fall apart
barksdale getting released early, betraying stringer, who at the same time is betraying avon
stringer/clay davis
omar and brother mouzone
carcetti/city hall storyline starts and takes off
prez shooting a plainclothes cop
the whole rise of marlo
cutty's storyline

an insane amount of plot and character development in 12 hours of television. its wild that bunk doesn't even appear in like 4 eps in this season, yet his scene with omar in the middle of the season is maybe the best of the entire show

and now, i get to subject myself to the absolute most depressing season of tv ever created.

MistaT

mdgoonah41 -- laying it out there.....you've got me ready to watch it all again (for about the 4th time)

mdgoonah41

and the best season ending montage (better than the finale, imo)

Claudius

Season 3 was my favorite. I only got up to season 2 before work got wild earlier this year. Can’t wait for the holidays so I can rewatch season 3. Such an epic season of tv.

RocktheCasbah

Claudius "Get on with it, mutha-”

goon

RocktheCasbah

Such a good scene. Remember praying that he somehow comes out alive, like they just hug it out and part ways with mutual respect. Probably would have bombed but I’d be happy.

goon

The Day of the Jackal is excellent. One of the few shows that manages to surprise me a few times without having to resort to ridiculous twists.

RocktheCasbah

goon could have done without some of the family stuff, Bianca being so annoying and her boss sounding like a cliche of every on screen MI5/6 boss ever, but thought the story was pretty engaging, verging on compelling and delivered an excellent final episode. Excited to see what season 2 brings.

Bin the crap, sub James Bond, theme tune though. It's like lobotomized Portishead.

goon

RocktheCasbah

Yeah, most of the M16 stuff was a bit low rent. Feels like some of that stuff was tailored for the American audience.

Bianca was annoying but I loved that they didn’t make her character this moral goody two shoes who was ultimately vindicated with her persistence. She did bad things herself, and her persistence cost her her life. The Jackal himself didn’t have some revelation where he decides to become good and join the good guys, he just kept on doing bad things and if anything killed increasingly more innocents along the way. It fits more with real life than how a lot of the these shows conclude. The only thing I didn’t really buy is that they wouldn’t just pay him and instead try to kill him off, but I can live with it for a season 2 plot line

Dom

I like Ronan Bennett's work but this show could've been four episodes lighter.

Asterix

Dom That's true of nearly everything these days. The streaming companies seem to love 8 episodes, when most stuff would be much better as 4.

Daz

I'm really enjoying season 2 of Severance. Just so different from anything else going around (at least that I've seen). Great characters, intriguing story, good pacing, looks stunning etc.

Asterix

Daz I'm enjoying it too - it's the most original thing we've seen on tv for years. I saw a review titled "Midway through Season 2: what the hell is going on?" Lol.

Gazza M

Daz it's the only show I watch weekly right now.

Qwiss

Asterix if you've only got 4 episodes worth of material make a movie. 8 episodes is tight enough for a TV show anyway. If something needs less than 6 its definitely better off as a movie.

Burnwinter I really like it too but its definitely a show thats reputation is going to live or die on the last season. Right now its throttling along at a rip roaring pace though. Some of the things that have happened already this seasons feel like stuff you wouldn't expect till season 4 of a 5 seasons show.

Burnwinter

SEVERANCE is decent, we're keeping up with it. I think it's brilliant but I can see one bad reveal ruining all the effort.

Been enjoying SILO more than I would've expected.

Daz

Burnwinter Been enjoying SILO more than I would've expected

Same here. I binged season 2 over a couple of days when I was home sick a little while back. It's by no means perfect or even great sci-fi, but it's quite enjoyable and the story has adequate depth to it.

Asterix

Qwiss I think I generally agree, although 4-5 hours of tv can be perfect for something. LOTR would work well as TV or as 3 movies. Pride and Prejudice was better as 5 tv episodes than one movie. But they are probably the exceptions. And they are adaptations, not completely original productions. So yes in general I think you're probably right.

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