Biggus wrote:
Junral Morf wrote:
That's nonsense, all buys are opportunistic.
Whether it's signing us signing Ozil or Chelsea signing Fabregas or United signing Mata or Liverpool signing Balotelli. Similarly, signing Cech would be opportunistic as well seeing as he wants to stay in London - of course, if he wanted big money or challenge himself in another league then we can't do anything about.
But you're accusation here purely seems to be down to the material amount of money that Wenger is willing to part with for some unspecified reason - presumably because he's a goalkeeper. I believe you once said that Wenger wouldn't spend big money on big players because he was afraid of the consequences of them failing or that Wenger would not be able to manage their egos. I also remember you suggesting that the bid for Suarez three seasons ago was all for show and Wenger would never actually part with that kind of money.
No its nonsense to say all buys are opportunistic, many are carefully considered and pursued.
Well, in that case the Ozil signing was equally well considered. Wenger's been trailing Ozil since his Weder Bremen days - Ozil's said it himself that the fact that Wenger knew his entire career and was in touch with him even before he went to Madrid. From our side, we approached Madrid very early on in the process before any other club came in - it seems it was largely down to building a relationship with the player right at the start along with good anticipation from the club that made that happen.
Do you honestly think that Arsenal don't carefully consider their bids without fully evaluating the player? On one hand you paint Arsenal as a tight fisted club that are loathe to part with their money (which I agree with) but then on the other hand you suggest that they just nab whoever they can find depending on who's available.
While we're at it Sanchez wasn't supposed to be shipped out of Barcelona for Suarez, Pedro was initially the player expected to make way but our bid for Sanchez and the lack of interest in Pedro helped things out in our favour there as well.
Anyway, to bring it on topic - the same conditions exist with the Cech transfer. The only complication is that they play for a rival club.
Err am I missing something here?
Yes - my previous post.
You're like those people in the 60's who seeing man reach the moon expected it to become so mundane that within 50 years everyone would be driving space cars to it for the weekend.
They failed to understand that the race to the moon involved an enormous technical and financial effort by two superpowers and those conditions are unlikely to be reproduced for generations.
Whatever this means.
The clamour for Wenger to get up off his lazy arse and put some of our vast fortune to use by buying some marquee players for fans to worship instead of his usual 'we don't buy stars we make them (then sell them)" mantra was starting to become deafening, allied to the fact that we hadn't won anything in 9 years Wenger was starting to become worried and he had to do something.
Well, yes - but then why would you suggest that Wenger wouldn't sign Cech then for 10m? It's all very contradictory from you.