No surprise when you look at the members of the 'commission'. A few random chairmen, clueless ex footballers like Danny Mills and dinosaurs like Dario Gradi. Absolutely no one who knows anything about anything, other than maybe Hoddle and Hodgeson.
The Elite performance plan from the Premier League was much more on the ball when it comes to improving the quality of talent coming through and it will probably bear some fruit in the coming years.
qs! wrote:They're always approaching it from the wrong end. If they want more English players at top teams then come up with ways to improve young English players. Don't just make it easier for them.
Spot on.
Just see how their values inflate and all of these young bastards get even richer, resulting in them being arrogant and cocky from young and subsequently ruin their careers. We have seen so many examples of these.
qs! wrote:They're always approaching it from the wrong end. If they want more English players at top teams then come up with ways to improve young English players. Don't just make it easier for them.
Comes down simply to supply and demand, all they are doing is creating a higher demand without resolving the issue with supply. They think by increasing demand the clubs will sort things out themselves, a very short sighted approach to a mess that is their doing. They should be looking to invest much more in grass roots and coaching, the players will then follow.
wenger's take on it was correct, of course. spend more money on coaching and at the lower levels in terms of building academies and starting young. restricting movement is not the right answer. teams wouldnt spend big money on foreign players if the players they were training in their academy from age 8 were up to the quality required.
The one thing I see as perhaps problematic today is that many academies have many, perhaps too many, players that are not British. Get a larger percentage of British players into the top academies and maybe more of them will rise towards the top. Only my musings of course. 
Rex wrote:The one thing I see as perhaps problematic today is that many academies have many, perhaps too many, players that are not British. Get a larger percentage of British players into the top academies and maybe more of them will rise towards the top. Only my musings of course.
It shouldn't matter. If they are good enough, they will be. Barcelona and Madrid signs alot of young players from every nation, but it doesn't affect Spanish players coming through.
The academy system have to be right. Lifestyle has to be right.
If you want to force the issue you have to attack it from both ends - better youth training and these new rules. Support the FA here.
qs! wrote:They're always approaching it from the wrong end. If they want more English players at top teams then come up with ways to improve young English players. Don't just make it easier for them.
Exactly. These 'new' plans exhibit their way of thinking perfectly, all Johnny Foreigner's fault that English players don't make it to the top, it's got nothing to do of course with English kids being shit due to prehistoric education.
Rex wrote:The one thing I see as perhaps problematic today is that many academies have many, perhaps too many, players that are not British. Get a larger percentage of British players into the top academies and maybe more of them will rise towards the top. Only my musings of course.
A major reason for that is the restrictions on clubs to sign young players from around England.
A club like Arsenal can sign youngsters from all over France, Spain, Holland, etc but cannot sign an under age player from Bristol, Plymouth, Birmingham, etc
That rule has been scrapped though?
Biggus wrote:This doesn't affect EU players Meaty, so the rational for it to stop the game "having little to do with English people" is obviously doomed to pointlessness.
Also as Rex says, the PL clubs who call the shots will not allow this, they always try every few years but as theres no way around EU employment and discrimination laws it never goes anywhere.
it affects them in that if they can't be classified as homegrown because they couldn't come over at 15 then they would be cutting into the non-homegrown roster spots. coquelin and belerin for example wouldn't be homegrown under these rules. to have 12 positions set aside for players who have been in england since 15 would be tough sledding for us.
qs! wrote:Rex wrote:The one thing I see as perhaps problematic today is that many academies have many, perhaps too many, players that are not British. Get a larger percentage of British players into the top academies and maybe more of them will rise towards the top. Only my musings of course.
A major reason for that is the restrictions on clubs to sign young players from around England.
A club like Arsenal can sign youngsters from all over France, Spain, Holland, etc but cannot sign an under age player from Bristol, Plymouth, Birmingham, etc
the bristol and spanish players are the same age when arsenal is allowed to sign them: 16. the problem is that the 16 year old that we sign from spain is being trained at an elite football academy and the 16 year old from bristol is being trained in bristol.
