Reus will take time to get used to the PL, whilst Bale would be good from the off, he's also a more powerful dribbler, which I prefer.

£30m for Depay? Is he worth it? I've not seen him at all other than a recent game for Holland. Impressive goalscoring record though.

Only seen him at the World Cup, so can't comment on his record in Holland; he looked a good talent to me but not something to really sit up and take notice of.

21 goals for PSV. Difficult to say what a 21 goal striker in the Dutch league is worth in the PL in 2015. Could flop or be the next Ronaldo, who knows.

halfvolley wrote:

21 goals for PSV. Difficult to say what a 21 goal striker in the Dutch league is worth in the PL in 2015. Could flop or be the next Ronaldo, who knows.

21 goals and 4 assists in 28 league appearances is very impressive from the wing, even in Holland, and he has the frame to excel in the premiership. Powerful lad.

Problem is, for every RvN or Suarez coming from Holland, there's been Mutu's, Kezman's, Alves's and Huntelaar's... coming from the Eredivisie is a risky gamble..

Rayman wrote:

Reus will take time to get used to the PL, whilst Bale would be good from the off, he's also a more powerful dribbler, which I prefer.

I think of lot of Bale's limitations have been shown up at R.Madrid. He thrived in a system for Spurs but he not as good as people make out imo. When teams sit deep a lot of Bale's best attributes get taken out, whereas we need someone who can press from the front and work well in tight spaces.

He's a bit like Ramsey in that he doesn't look smooth with all the tippy tappy stuff but I don't think he'd be a hinderence at all. He's more selfish though some some of the pretty team goals might not happen, but no doubt we'd score a shed load more.

I think a smart thing to do would be to use Bale like Wales do. They've got a good record this qualifying campaign and recently Bale has been pushed up top with Ramsey at 10. He's not as good as Giroud in terms of winning headers and fighting with CBs but he has looked competitive enough.

I like the idea of Bale as a striker.

Irish gunner wrote:

halfvolley wrote:

21 goals for PSV. Difficult to say what a 21 goal striker in the Dutch league is worth in the PL in 2015. Could flop or be the next Ronaldo, who knows.

21 goals and 4 assists in 28 league appearances is very impressive from the wing, even in Holland, and he has the frame to excel in the premiership. Powerful lad.

Jozy Altidore is built like a brick shithouse and scored 31 goals in 41 games for AZ a few seasons ago. He's one of the worst strikers who have ever graced the Premiership for as long as I've been watching.

I would never sign any players based on their performances in the Eredivise. Talent, sure, but it's difficult to see what sets Depay apart from so many other youngsters around Europe in that department. At least from limited viewing.

I think Reus would be more comfortable for us.

Klaus wrote:

Irish gunner wrote:

21 goals and 4 assists in 28 league appearances is very impressive from the wing, even in Holland, and he has the frame to excel in the premiership. Powerful lad.

Jozy Altidore is built like a brick shithouse and scored 31 goals in 41 games for AZ a few seasons ago. He's one of the worst strikers who have ever graced the Premiership for as long as I've been watching.

I would never sign any players based on their performances in the Eredivise. Talent, sure, but it's difficult to see what sets Depay apart from so many other youngsters around Europe in that department. At least from limited viewing.

Lets not forget Alfonso Alves either, 45 goals in 39 games in Holland,  probably about as bad as it got in the Premier League too. 

You need to watch them to get a good idea, rather than looking at their records. Suarez was an obvious talent for example. 

Not fussed about Depay. Januzaj is more talented, hope they somehow sell him.

marv3llous wrote:

I think Reus would be more comfortable for us.

I have a gut feeling that Reus is not going anywhere this summer.

Unlike Hummels or Gundogan, he is a local lad and has always expressed real attachment to the club.

His recently signed extension also could be a pointer that direction.

Januzaj will be living off his Uniteds-rock-bottom-hype for quite a few years still, i see ...

Januzaj at this moment is just hype.

Depay on the other hand was a major factor is PSV reclaiming the league title.

Klaus wrote:

Irish gunner wrote:

21 goals and 4 assists in 28 league appearances is very impressive from the wing, even in Holland, and he has the frame to excel in the premiership. Powerful lad.

Jozy Altidore is built like a brick shithouse and scored 31 goals in 41 games for AZ a few seasons ago. He's one of the worst strikers who have ever graced the Premiership for as long as I've been watching.

I would never sign any players based on their performances in the Eredivise. Talent, sure, but it's difficult to see what sets Depay apart from so many other youngsters around Europe in that department. At least from limited viewing.

Funnily enough the i noticed about Depay from a few vids is that he's well built.

Pretty scathing quotes from Beckenbauer on Gotze

"He behaves and moves around on the pitch like a youth player. He just stops moving when he loses a duel. This is the behaviour of a child," Beckenbauer told Sky.

"This kind of behaviour does not fit in at Bayern. It is time for him to grow up.

"He has shown at Dortmund what he can do and we know that he is a great talent. But there is still something missing."

Klaus wrote:

Irish gunner wrote:

21 goals and 4 assists in 28 league appearances is very impressive from the wing, even in Holland, and he has the frame to excel in the premiership. Powerful lad.

Jozy Altidore is built like a brick shithouse and scored 31 goals in 41 games for AZ a few seasons ago. He's one of the worst strikers who have ever graced the Premiership for as long as I've been watching.

I would never sign any players based on their performances in the Eredivise. Talent, sure, but it's difficult to see what sets Depay apart from so many other youngsters around Europe in that department. At least from limited viewing.

On the very few occasions that I've seen him play I liked what I saw personally, there's something about him. But yeah, loads of flops from Holland and there's a good chance that he won't make the impact that I expect.

Irish gunner wrote:

Pretty scathing quotes from Beckenbauer on Gotze

"He behaves and moves around on the pitch like a youth player. He just stops moving when he loses a duel. This is the behaviour of a child," Beckenbauer told Sky.

"This kind of behaviour does not fit in at Bayern. It is time for him to grow up.

"He has shown at Dortmund what he can do and we know that he is a great talent. But there is still something missing."

It's just Bayern's blame mentality. Has to cover the fact they weren't good enough, so let's attack the 22 year old who played fifteen minutes instead of guys like Lewandowski and Müller who were shown up.

They were both shocking last night. Has nothing to do with either of them being limited players, or even lacking quality compared to the opposition. Müller was Germany's POT when they won the World Cup 9 months ago and it's only been two years since Lewandowski scored four on Real Madrid. These are the guys you'd expect to step up against Barcelona.

Depay to Man U I like not at all, as Yoda would say. Boy looks destined for stardom.

I think Ricardo Kishna and El Ghazi are bigger talents from the Dutch league.

Irish gunner wrote:

Pretty scathing quotes from Beckenbauer on Gotze

"He behaves and moves around on the pitch like a youth player. He just stops moving when he loses a duel. This is the behaviour of a child," Beckenbauer told Sky.

"This kind of behaviour does not fit in at Bayern. It is time for him to grow up.

"He has shown at Dortmund what he can do and we know that he is a great talent. But there is still something missing."

#WelcomeMario #GötzeIsAGunner

Somehow Wenger seems to have decided that the Dutch league is not worth it. Can't think of anyone except Overmars who has been brought in from there. While success in the Eredivisie has proved to be not too reliable, don't know if we are missing out talents there who are worth a shot, although over the last ten years, only 2-3 Eredivise players have made it big in England - RvN, Suarez, Eriksen.

Ummm....The Skunk...

Lol...yeah...I just blanked him out I guess It still feels like a small number though.

Bought Vermaelen from Holland too.

He's had one good season since he left the Netherlands, and a lot of that was due to his offensive contributions. Don't count him as a winning buy.

Rex wrote:

Depay to Man U I like not at all, as Yoda would say. Boy looks destined for stardom.

What has he ever done outside of the Eredivisie? Ryo Miyaichi lit up that league ffs.

He's also got a good international record. Did well in the WC and was in the top three for YPOT I think. He also has a Bale-like build and style which is well suited to the Premiership. Of course, he may well flop, but I think it's more likely he will do well in a Man U style setup, with his characteristics.

What's a "Man u style setup"? The same style that makes one of the best wingers in the world look like one of the worst?

Until they can show they can play without Fellaini as the focal point they'll be shit.

Claudius wrote:

He's had one good season since he left the Netherlands, and a lot of that was due to his offensive contributions. Don't count him as a winning buy.

He was better in his first season where he formed a superb partnership with Gallas at the back. Defensively so solid that year.

Bosscielny wrote:

What's a "Man u style setup"? The same style that makes one of the best wingers in the world look like one of the worst?

*makes one of the best midfielders look like an average winger

Di Maria has never in his career been one of the best wingers in the world. He became world class when moved to the middle, became average when moved back to the wing. That's why Depay will do better, he actually is a winger. 

DiMaria is a winger.

He has been a winger every season in his entire career except the one where he was world class.

I liked him better on the wing, I think. Fearsome dribbler. His awareness isn't good enough centrally, but he's a weapon out wide with that technique and pace. Few have the ability to do what he does at such a high speed. People make too much of the numbers he racked up in his last season for Real Madrid.

The numbers he racked up weren't that good in his last season, they were better the season before. It's just that he played much, much better. On the wing he was always inconsistent. His last season was a relevation, he made every Real Madrid supporter think that they sold the right player out of him and Özil. Whether it was just because he developed as a player or if it was because he changed position, no one can know. All I do know is that his best season came when he played centrally.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

His last season was a relevation, he made every Real Madrid supporter think that they sold the right player out of him and Özil.

I watched him and I didn't agree with that. He looked like a typical Ancelotti midfielder in the sense that he would work all over the field, which is something that players like Özil will never do, but he wasn't that outstanding. Grafter with great technique, basically. The money Real got for him will go down as one of the biggest ripoffs in football.