Other clubs transfer thread 2015 (Latest: Man City sign De Bruyne): Page 19 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Other clubs transfer thread 2015 (Latest: Man City sign De Bruyne)

marv3llous

Klaus wrote:
Irish gunner wrote:
Pretty scathing quotes from Beckenbauer on Gotze

"He behaves and moves around on the pitch like a youth player. He just stops moving when he loses a duel. This is the behaviour of a child," Beckenbauer told Sky.

"This kind of behaviour does not fit in at Bayern. It is time for him to grow up.

"He has shown at Dortmund what he can do and we know that he is a great talent. But there is still something missing."

It's just Bayern's blame mentality. Has to cover the fact they weren't good enough, so let's attack the 22 year old who played fifteen minutes instead of guys like Lewandowski and Müller who were shown up.

May be a blame mentality, but there's always some reason for it as well. If Lewa & Müller did all they could, then you cant exactly blame them for not being good enough.

Klaus

They were both shocking last night. Has nothing to do with either of them being limited players, or even lacking quality compared to the opposition. Müller was Germany's POT when they won the World Cup 9 months ago and it's only been two years since Lewandowski scored four on Real Madrid. These are the guys you'd expect to step up against Barcelona.

Rex

Depay to Man U I like not at all, as Yoda would say. Boy looks destined for stardom. 🙁

Ray

I think Ricardo Kishna and El Ghazi are bigger talents from the Dutch league.

DiabyKungFu

Irish gunner wrote:
Pretty scathing quotes from Beckenbauer on Gotze

"He behaves and moves around on the pitch like a youth player. He just stops moving when he loses a duel. This is the behaviour of a child," Beckenbauer told Sky.

"This kind of behaviour does not fit in at Bayern. It is time for him to grow up.

"He has shown at Dortmund what he can do and we know that he is a great talent. But there is still something missing."

#WelcomeMario #GötzeIsAGunner

BWoolley

Somehow Wenger seems to have decided that the Dutch league is not worth it. Can't think of anyone except Overmars who has been brought in from there. While success in the Eredivisie has proved to be not too reliable, don't know if we are missing out talents there who are worth a shot, although over the last ten years, only 2-3 Eredivise players have made it big in England - RvN, Suarez, Eriksen.

Coombs

Ummm....The Skunk...

BWoolley

Lol...yeah...I just blanked him out I guess 🙂 It still feels like a small number though.

Rex

Bought Vermaelen from Holland too.

Claudius

He's had one good season since he left the Netherlands, and a lot of that was due to his offensive contributions. Don't count him as a winning buy.

Jed

Rex wrote:
Depay to Man U I like not at all, as Yoda would say. Boy looks destined for stardom. 🙁

What has he ever done outside of the Eredivisie? Ryo Miyaichi lit up that league ffs.

BWoolley

He's also got a good international record. Did well in the WC and was in the top three for YPOT I think. He also has a Bale-like build and style which is well suited to the Premiership. Of course, he may well flop, but I think it's more likely he will do well in a Man U style setup, with his characteristics.

Bosscielny

What's a "Man u style setup"? The same style that makes one of the best wingers in the world look like one of the worst?

Until they can show they can play without Fellaini as the focal point they'll be shit.

Clrnc

Claudius wrote:
He's had one good season since he left the Netherlands, and a lot of that was due to his offensive contributions. Don't count him as a winning buy.

He was better in his first season where he formed a superb partnership with Gallas at the back. Defensively so solid that year.

QuincyAbeyie

Bosscielny wrote:
What's a "Man u style setup"? The same style that makes one of the best wingers in the world look like one of the worst?

*makes one of the best midfielders look like an average winger

Di Maria has never in his career been one of the best wingers in the world. He became world class when moved to the middle, became average when moved back to the wing. That's why Depay will do better, he actually is a winger.

ludovicvanzis

DiMaria is a winger.

QuincyAbeyie

He has been a winger every season in his entire career except the one where he was world class.

Klaus

I liked him better on the wing, I think. Fearsome dribbler. His awareness isn't good enough centrally, but he's a weapon out wide with that technique and pace. Few have the ability to do what he does at such a high speed. People make too much of the numbers he racked up in his last season for Real Madrid.

QuincyAbeyie

The numbers he racked up weren't that good in his last season, they were better the season before. It's just that he played much, much better. On the wing he was always inconsistent. His last season was a relevation, he made every Real Madrid supporter think that they sold the right player out of him and Özil. Whether it was just because he developed as a player or if it was because he changed position, no one can know. All I do know is that his best season came when he played centrally.

Klaus

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
His last season was a relevation, he made every Real Madrid supporter think that they sold the right player out of him and Özil.

I watched him and I didn't agree with that. He looked like a typical Ancelotti midfielder in the sense that he would work all over the field, which is something that players like Özil will never do, but he wasn't that outstanding. Grafter with great technique, basically. The money Real got for him will go down as one of the biggest ripoffs in football.

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