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Biggus

BTW the "justice" I refer to were the mass slaughter of entire family groups in retaliation for hunting the settlers livestock.
As hunter gatherers they had no concept of private ownership, all animals sheep or kangaroos were simply wild prey to them, and being few in number with no external enemies they had no concept of war but were limited to tribal payback for individual slights, they were "below the military horizon" as John Keegan would put it.
The whole thing was a clusterfuck and a tragedy.

Burnwinter

Biggus wrote:
No most would have been born here, but Australia is very multiracial like the USA there are many non-White immigrants and their children were born here like my son.

It's worth pointing out that despite the promotion and widespread acceptance of multiculturalism and fairly steady Asian migration, Australia is actually much less "multiracial" than the USA, and also than many European countries.

Biggus

Maybe not in Perth but certainly in Melbourne/Sydney Burnsy.

And Switzerland is the only comparison to Australia for multiculturalism in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign-born_population

jones

Strange looking table, what's the use of adding the percentage of naturalised foreign population if you don't give the percentage of those out of the overall population?

And Switzerland is not really multicultural, think about half of all foreigners in the country come from their three big neighbours. Good chunk of those foreigners probably doesn't even have their permanent residence there, at least with Germans it's a pretty common theme to enjoy much higher Swiss wages but live in Germany where cost of living is a lot lower. Can't be compared at all to Australia or Canada; if you wanted to pick a European country Luxembourg would be closer to what you're looking for.

Biggus

Thats a good point Jonesy, Australian is truly multicultural and this cuts across the socio-economic divide.

No figures are shown for France but from experience it is very multicultural too.

Burnwinter

Yes, lots of foreign born people in Australia but a larger majority here is white than eg in the US (or UK for that matter).

jones

Biggus wrote:
Thats a good point Jonesy, Australian is truly multicultural and this cuts across the socio-economic divide.

No figures are shown for France but from experience it is very multicultural too.

Haven't been to Australia yet but I'd be surprised if there's any basis for comparison, it'll be much closer to Canada or the US as another country of immigrants.

France is multicultural in its larger urban agglomerations but doesn't have too many foreigners elsewhere. Outside of the capital and the southeast the number of immigrants is insignificant. Other European countries have a higher percentage but even there you can't call them really multicultural, I'd reserve that term for select cities like London Paris or Frankfurt.

Biggus

And as Flobaba will tell you "we Whites" are an homogeneous group of one mind and one purpose.

Biggus

jones wrote:
Biggus wrote:
Thats a good point Jonesy, Australian is truly multicultural and this cuts across the socio-economic divide.

No figures are shown for France but from experience it is very multicultural too.

Haven't been to Australia yet but I'd be surprised if there's any basis for comparison, it'll be much closer to Canada or the US as another country of immigrants.

France is multicultural in its larger urban agglomerations but doesn't have too many foreigners elsewhere. Outside of the capital and the southeast the number of immigrants is insignificant. Other European countries have a higher percentage but even there you can't call them really multicultural, I'd reserve that term for select cities like London Paris or Frankfurt.

Spot on, Australia is like a hot Canada.
Obviously cities like London and Paris are very coloured (if you'll pardon the pun) by their colonial legacies, and the relations with the native born population will reflect that,
In the USA Canada and Australia, countries which didn't possess colonies the dynamics are different.

jones

In the USA, countries which didn't possess colonies the dynamics are different.

The dynamics are indeed different as the amount varies greatly but of course the USA possessed colonies, they still do. Those are clearly not the only factors, Germany isn't a classic immigration country (like the ones in the Americas) nor did it have any considerable colonies but the percentage of foreigners in the population here is higher than in France or the UK, Frankfurt is also as diverse as any city you'll find in Europe.

Burnwinter

Donald Trump's had support (or qualified approval) from Klansmen, and campaigned hard on racial stereotypes in the heartland of US white supremacism ... his stats suggest there's at least a proportion of that white vote that's betting he'll favour them.

Now that he's secured the nomination I fully expect he'll back further away from those associations.

You don't need to agree with the phrase "you can't be racist against whites" to acknowledge there's a big difference between racism against those whose ancestors were slave-owners, and racism against those whose ancestors were slaves.

jones

Biggus wrote:
And as Flobaba will tell you "we Whites" are an homogeneous group of one mind and one purpose.

Damn white children look creepy as fuck.

Biggus

😆

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/05/iran-bans-devil-worshipping-homosexual-hairstyles

How do they manage to show football on TV without the hairstyles and tattoo's?

Kel Varnsen

jones wrote:
Biggus wrote:
And as Flobaba will tell you "we Whites" are an homogeneous group of one mind and one purpose.

Damn white children look creepy as fuck.

I think they're Swedish...

Qwiss

Burnwinter wrote:
You don't need to agree with the phrase "you can't be racist against whites" to acknowledge there's a big difference between racism against those whose ancestors were slave-owners, and racism against those whose ancestors were slaves.

I don't really think thats the best way to put. Not every white Americans ancestors were slave owners. Plenty of white immigrant populations in America and even without that I don't really see why anyone bares any responsibility for the sins of their ancestors. What people should accept is that Americas history of racism means that white people are still in a position of privilege and that is where I think the difference in how racism manifests matters.

flobaba

Biggus wrote:
And as Flobaba will tell you "we Whites" are an homogeneous group of one mind and one purpose.

Perhaps not those

But certainly these:

And they may be quiet and in hiding now, but they are still here. Them and their offspring.

y va marquer

That photo makes my stomach churn, frightening stuff.

flobaba

Qwiss! wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
You don't need to agree with the phrase "you can't be racist against whites" to acknowledge there's a big difference between racism against those whose ancestors were slave-owners, and racism against those whose ancestors were slaves.

I don't really think thats the best way to put. Not every white Americans ancestors were slave owners. Plenty of white immigrant populations in America and even without that I don't really see why anyone bares any responsibility for the sins of their ancestors.

Timothy Dwight puts it best:

[size=medium][font='Lyon Text', Georgia, Times, serif]"It is in vain to allege that our ancestors bought them hither, and not we. As well might a son, who inherited an ample patrimony, refuse to pay a debt because it was contracted by his father. We inherit our ample patrimony with all its incumbrances; and are bound to pay the debts of our ancestors...[/font][/size][size=medium][font='Lyon Text', Georgia, Times, serif] To give them liberty, and stop here, is to entail upon them a curse."[/font][/size]

If you haven't already, I encourage you to take some time to read "The Case for reparations" by Ta Nehisi Coates:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Irishgunner

Fucking hell, another doctors without borders hospital got hit in an airstrike.

arsedocmd

..with kids in there.

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