Would prefer Pogba, Martinez and Bender first.

I dont think Pogba and Martinez are actually on the move though. He is the best optiom after them though. Yes from me.

It doesn't look like Bender wants to leave and tbh Martinez is a bit of a pipe dream as well so he is probably our most realistic option there. Need to make a move before Man Utd or Liverpool potentially sign Shaw & Lallana. Don't think Southampton will let all three go in one summer.

Would be happy to take him and rotate him with Arteta next season. He's a very good footballer whose actual market price would be much higher if he wasn't playing for Southampton. Better than both Benders in my opinion.

Aye, get Schneiderlin in early and then concentrate our efforts on getting that star forward we need.

i'd have him over bender. i think they're roughly equal in terms of ability, but schneiderlin has the edge in pl experience

And price. And homegrown status.

Schneiderlin would be a brilliant signing though.

35 is clearly not measly. It's a few million short of what world class players like Ozil and Mata have gone for.

They are willing to deal close to 60m.

That's what they tell the media. Montpellier chairman also told the media Giroud is worth £50m.

Pogba is an attacking midfielder, we need a defensive midfielder....

Pogba + Ramsey just feels so right...even if it's wrong.

Schneiderlin would be perfect though.

Coombs wrote:

Pogba + Ramsey just feels so right...even if it's wrong.

Schneiderlin would be perfect though.

It would be such a powerhouse midfield :drool:

A midfield trio of Ramsey Wilshere and schneiderlin would be mustard

Schneiderlin is perfect - very good player with room to improve, would be available for a reasonable fee and on reasonable wages, and can play both deep midfield positions. Arteta/Schneiderlin/Ramsey is a top set of central midfielders.

Is there any evidence that we bid for him in January and were rejected?

Not sure about January, but according to Murray Groves we did bid in September.

Murray Groves ‏@MurrayGroves Sep 2
I understand Arsenal may be submitting a late £12m bid for a Southampton player. I'm assuming either Shaw or Schneiderlin #SaintsFC #AFC

Or whenever it was. I at some point read that we previously bid for him, if that's the case then at least Wenger likes the player.

Gunner89 wrote:

35 is clearly not measly. It's a few million short of what world class players like Ozil and Mata have gone for.

Try telling that to Illaramendi or Marquinhos. The market has changed, Pogba is never going to go for peanuts

I hold out hope that our scouting network is able to find a hidden talent that goes about the business of defending properly in midfield and distributing the ball well.

Scheniderlin fits the bill.

20 days later

Fuck me, that's an awkward graph.

It's a statsbomb capi

Someone's done a lot of non value added analysis and they can't get back the time they wasted compiling it

They could have had a wank or two!

😆 Those randomly calibrated radial axes are fully numerological.

Burnwinter™ wrote:

😆 Those randomly calibrated radial axes are fully numerological.

I think the axes represent percentiles. With that being said, it's still a pretty pointless way of displaying data.

Those axes are linear mate - just stupidly bounded, scaled, and rounded.

I reckon those statsbomb images only work if you look at a few together.
Always handy to have Joe Average's to hand :egg:

Schneiderlin looks more Joe Average than he does Pirlo

These graphs are really only useful when you use overlays. Pirlo and Schneiderlin should be shown on one graph. Consistent axes (percentiles?) would be nice as well

You don't need an overlay to compare them, I actually think the difference is more clear when you see them side by side 🙂

So he looks a little average technically compared to Andrea Pirlo...not sure this is something that needs analysing tbh.

Statistically Schneiderlin is one of the best midfielders in the league, he's high on all the lists that matter - tackles, interceptions, passing accuracy, distance run etc. Was naively hoping we might get this done early but i guess the world cup call up means theres no chance of that happening.

As good as he is, Pirlo plays in a dead league.

Oh by the way that graph suggests he hasn't played a throughball all season. This video says otherwise so its accuracy isn't flawless

Think you may have misinterpreted the graph ? 🙂
Anyway I don't think anyone's suggesting that we use the graph to seriously assess him.
At a quick glance those graphs show that Ramsey's closer to Pirlo and streets ahead of Joe Average 🙂

Ah i see the figures now, thought it was 0.0.