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At 0-0 when Wilshere was injured, I think it was a logical sub to bring Cazorla on for him; I say that because we dominated the game, and at that point looked a lot more likely to get that first goal.
However, when we are bringing Giroud on at 0-1, already with Cazorla on the pitch, the logical move for me would have been what I mentioned above, but at the same time tell Cazorla to play deep next to Arteta and help him PROTECT THE EFFIN' CBs!!!!

We see this time and again when we go a goal down; all of a sudden it seems as if everyone, bar Arteta or Flamini, has COMPLETE freedom to push as high up the pitch as they want. Today, we even saw Mertesacker ON THE RIGHT WING FFS! The truth is, most of the time, that we don't need more players pushing up. Especially today it was soooo obvious that we easily worked the ball into their final third, and we could get crosses into the box at will. We needed another player with good aerial ability in the box to improve our percentages, but Wenger completely got it wrong with how he utilized his players when Giroud came on.

Should have brought on someone else than Cazorla today. We had a choice: do we sub on an attacking player and keep pushing for a win or do we sub on someone who can stabilise the game defensively and secure the point? Naturally, we chose option three instead, which was to bring on someone who hasn't scored in his last 30 Premier League games and can't tackle. It wasn't the immediate reason we conceded either goal, but I just don't get the point of it all. It was like playing with 10 men.

Wilshere was awesome apart from his finishing, by the way. We're screwed if he's out for long.

I figured we'd lose this game, by the way. I'm mostly annoyed that I was dumb enough to schedule a very long return trip around this game. 20+ hours on trains, planes and airports to get home to this...

Like me, you are not numb when it comes to Arsenal though. Seems as if a lot of people around here feel that way now.

AW talks of our inefficiency in attack and naivety in defence = that's what happens when you don't place enough emphasis on the basics of each discipline.

I'd almost gotten into the Saturday night zone where I'd forgotten about this s***, until I ended up conceding to watching the recorded MOTD.
What's still driving me mad is the prissy little feeble attempts at shooting at goal, enough chances to have scored first, even to have scored twice without reply.

Shit result, shit performance (flatters to deceive as always), shit player and a shit manager. Fucking hate our midfield. Wilshere was our best midfielder today and he was damn near abysmal. There is no thought or plan behind the way we play. We pressed fairly decent today and created a few chances against a piss poor man u side, but couldn't score goals. I fucking hate this current side. I would sell every player except for Sanchez. Get rid of Wenger, sell 8-10 players and start over. This team is a mess.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Shit result, shit performance (flatters to deceive as always), shit player and a shit manager. Fucking hate our midfield. Wilshere was our best midfielder today and he was damn near abysmal. There is no thought or plan behind the way we play. We pressed fairly decent today and created a few chances against a piss poor man u side, but couldn't score goals. I fucking hate this current side. I would sell every player except for Sanchez. Get rid of Wenger, sell 8-10 players and start over. This team is a mess.

You're not alone in feeling that way - Yuvken's said much the same earlier in this thread.
At this rate with another 2 seasons of more of the same shite I dare say that it may well be the case that the squad is beyond salvation.
In which case why not go for revolution rather than evolution?

On a somewhat positive note - how good has Chamberlain been his last couple of games? Walcott is going to find it tough to get into the team if he keeps playing this well, I reckon.

Stick Walcott up front. Bench both Giroud and Welback.

Chamberlain is probably suffering from others fluffing their lines in front of goal, but he's been as ineffectual as the rest this season. He can beat a man, which I love to see, but after that his return has been dire. Walcott won't struggle to replace anyone who isn't scoring (assuming he hasn't caught the same no-scorey-itis the rest of them have)

For me, Chamberlain was our best player today by an absolute street. I certainly would have him on the pitch if he plays like this. Looks an absolute nightmare to play against too.

Personally, I'd get Walcott in the team asap too.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Stick Walcott up front. Bench both Giroud and Welback.

Pretty much this.

Rex wrote:

For me, Chamberlain was our best player today by an absolute street. I certainly would have him on the pitch if he plays like this. Looks an absolute nightmare to play against too.

Personally, I'd get Walcott in the team asap too.

Chamberlain seems able to go past anyone now. I completely agree with you. Sanchez too is a nightmare to play against. Walcott, while sometimes frustrating for us, is feared by opposition players. We need players like these three.

I mentioned it a couple of months back, that Chamberlain would reach a new level once he realized that the change of tempo is his best weapon. Before, he wanted to do everything at full pelt; he often mis-controlled quite easy passes to him because he wanted to receive the ball and be off at full speed in the same motion for instance. Now, he seems to have got there; slowing play down, and THEN making his move.

We were never going to beat them, we never do. Had to score when we dominated that first 30 minutes or so but as we well know, goals win matches not possession. When it was 0-0 at half time I knew we'd lost. They were always going to be better in the second half and we were never keeping a clean sheet. Guess there's a January panic buy to look forward to now 4th is in doubt.

Hard to argue with Alan Davies on the Tuesday Club the other day when he said "I don't know how Wenger can look Sanchez in the eye with the shower of shit he's put him with." No way he'll still be here next season.

invisibleman18 wrote:

We were never going to beat them, we never do. Had to score when we dominated that first 30 minutes or so but as we well know, goals win matches not possession. When it was 0-0 at half time I knew we'd lost. They were always going to be better in the second half and we were never keeping a clean sheet. Guess there's a January panic buy to look forward to now 4th is in doubt.

Hard to argue with Alan Davies on the Tuesday Club the other day when he said "I don't know how Wenger can look Sanchez in the eye with the shower of shit he's put him with." No way he'll still be here next season.

I'd add Ozil to that list, either of which should be reason for AW to depart at any other club.
I know he's previously survived the departures of the likes of AA, Hleb, Fabregas & RVP etc - even going back to he likes of PV & TH, but I wonder if AW is capable of surviving the potential departures of our 2 most expensive signings?

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

How poor was van Persie by the way?!

He was both insignificant and irrelevant,
and I care not.

Which is worse - failing to beat the worst Spurs side I've seen in years, or failing to beat the worst Utd side since before the Ferguson era?

I think this was worse, but I'm still trying to decide.