Get in Matty!
Mathieu Debuchy (Latest: Reports of medical)
Watch this be the "audacious stunt" (if there actually is one [size=xx-small]I bet there isn't[/size]) at the kit reveal.
Debuchy #2
Gibbs #3
Probably wasn't our first option or we would have done this sooner. Newcastle doesn't bring the best out in players hopefully he steps up here.
Jed wrote:He's taken out 'NUFC' from his Twitter bio. It's happening. There you have it lads, our new RB, Matty Debuchy.
Not convinced. What's Kike saying?
There's no way we should be spending anything above 10m on him.
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Jed wrote:He's taken out 'NUFC' from his Twitter bio. It's happening. There you have it lads, our new RB, Matty Debuchy.
Not convinced. What's Kike saying?
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Kike Marin** @Kike_Marin_
Wenger no está de vacaciones en Brasil y tiene muy cerca el fichaje de Debuchy, del #Newcastle. (France right-back is near to #Arsenal).
Rayman wrote:There's no way we should be spending anything above 10m on him.
Reported fee is 12m. What does it matter?
He is a solid replacement. A bit more imaginative going forward, and a bit worse defensively. A decent compromise since the fuckers decided not to keep our beastly Bac.
Is he really any better going forward? He's looked pretty meh going forward most of the times I've seen him. The comparison with Gibbs is pretty apt.
I said 'more imaginative' as opposed to better. Sagna is good at what he does, and he is better than Debuchy in his crossing. However, Debuchy is good at timing his runs, thus getting the ball into space behind the back 4. If you have noticed, Sagna almost always gets the ball into feet, and therefore seldom provokes defenders to have to turn towards their own goal. Debuchy is also less one-dimensional than Sagna in that he is also comfortable attacking the space between the fullback and the CB.
est wrote:Is he really any better going forward? He's looked pretty meh going forward most of the times I've seen him. The comparison with Gibbs is pretty apt.
He's average going forward and shit in defence from what I've seen of him at Newcastle.
We were always bound to be disappointed with Sagna's replacement.
qs! wrote:est wrote:Is he really any better going forward? He's looked pretty meh going forward most of the times I've seen him. The comparison with Gibbs is pretty apt.
He's average going forward and shit in defence from what I've seen of him at Newcastle.
Because Newcastle has a shit structure.
Basically Debuchy is very tenacious in defence, prone to giving away silly penalties because of that. Works immensely hard and overlaps so much better than Sagna. He is no Coleman in attack, but he is better than Gibbs, thats for sure.
Many Arsenal fans wishlisted him when he was brilliant in Euros. No doubt because of Newcastle's struggles his popularity here has dropped and many other better RBs are available, which is why people ain't really taking to him.
MistaT wrote:We were always bound to be disappointed with Sagna's replacement.
I will not be disappointed, Sagna was good for us, but that was it for me good.
We can and hopefully will do a lot better than Sagna.
Warming to this.
Newcastle fans are resigned to him going and say they don't deserve him
He's good on the ball. That's the upside to him over Sagna
Newcastle fans are gutted to be losing him.
Strange those people saying that he's not been up to much when they've seen him, given that he's always played well against us and caused us a lot of problems. At St James' last season he was probably the best player on the pitch.
Yeah I hear that. He looks an intelligent player too.
Maybe we could loan em jenks and get Aurier as well as Debuchy
And now there's this going around in addition to Debuchy removing NUFC from his Twitter bio earlier.
All this social media stuff going on
It's a winking smiley. Bloody hell, this is happening.
Never any doubt about it.
We're 100% going to sign him.
Kla surprised you don't like matty much
He's quiet italianish about his play
He's okay. It just bugs me that we'll spend £12 million to weaken the team compared to last season. He's 29 too. There's very little upside to this. We'll probably get two 6/10 seasons ouf of him and that's that.
Sagna was a 6/10 player too.
Sagna was at least a 7 on average.
Debuchy will win PFA Player of the Year this season. If Wenger transitions him into the #10 slot then he will win the Balon D'Or as well.
Klaus wrote:He's okay. It just bugs me that we'll spend £12 million to weaken the team compared to last season. He's 29 too. There's very little upside to this. We'll probably get two 6/10 seasons ouf of him and that's that.
i agree. 12m over 3 yrs is equal to 80k/week. which means if debuchy will get, say 50k/week, we should've offered sagna at least 130k/week, since he's the better player and can deputise at CB as well.
think sagna was going to leave regardless, though.
Rumour has it Newcastle will replace him with Aurier or Jamaat. Why don't we just sign Aurier?
Wenger doesn't fancy him?
We should sign both and let the corporal go on loan to Newcastle for the season.
Oh well this is good news for Jenks. Hopefully he'll get more game time this season if this is true.
bad news for the arsenal though. debuchy is nothing special.
if we blow this transfer window like we usually do, 5th place will be as real a possibility as it has ever been.
If it happens it'll be a really disheartening start to the window. Worse than last season already.
kamikaze wrote:bad news for the arsenal though. debuchy is nothing special.
if we blow this transfer window like we usually do, 5th place will be as real a possibility as it has ever been.
Just because we sign Debuchy we are going to finish 5th?
He might probably just surprise all of us and be a much better fit than Sagna. 3 France manager have played him ahead of Sagna now.
qs! wrote:If it happens it'll be a really disheartening start to the window. Worse than last season already.
Worse than signing Sanogo?!
I think not...
Clrnc wrote:kamikaze wrote:bad news for the arsenal though. debuchy is nothing special.
if we blow this transfer window like we usually do, 5th place will be as real a possibility as it has ever been.
Just because we sign Debuchy we are going to finish 5th?
He might probably just surprise all of us and be a much better fit than Sagna. 3 France manager have played him ahead of Sagna now.
Yep.
We will lose aerial strength obviously, but with the ball we will be much, much better. He makes the runs in the final third.
He's also better with the ball in tight spaces. Used to infuriate me just how often Sagna would receive the ball, not get his feet and angles right and end up going back to Szczesny
That's quite important actually. Build up play on our right side between Per and Sagna was very poor. I think Sagna is the better right back but I'd be hopeful that Debuchy will more or less be as effective as Bac as his style is a better fit. I guess the worry would be that that side will be weaker defensively and Per will be easier to get at. As some have said its important we get the right midfielder in as well, someone who can cover ground a lot quicker than Arteta.