Biggus wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Ah well same fate as England

😆 England deserved fuck all.

So do chile

Basically winners get credit rest are shit

I don't think Chile deserved it any more than Brazil did. I believe they would have won had they shown a little less caution.

Also, Neymar is incredible, the most 'entertaining' footballer currently and his contribution to Brazil at his age is quite extraordinary but I don't think he is as good as what Messi was at the same age.

Eh, I thought Brazil deserved to win really.

Rohit wrote:

Also, Neymar is incredible, the most 'entertaining' footballer currently and his contribution to Brazil at his age is quite extraordinary but I don't think he is as good as what Messi was at the same age.

His winning penalty and his ability to deal with the massive pressure of it being the one to keep Brazil in the World Cup was extraordinary.
He was anonymous for large spells of the game and there were two particular instances when he broke from midfield and looked to be through on goal and each time he blew it.
To be considered extraordinary he'll have to start taking those kind of chances.

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

So do chile

Basically winners get credit rest are shit

Of course, we all know that what you deserve is neither here nor there in football, you get what you get.

I absolutely love watching Neymar play football. They don't make them like that anymore. His relative inexperience in certain situations was shining through a few times though. There was a moment right at the end of the game; I think the clock showed 122 minutes. Pinilla hit the bar and Brazil countered through Neymar who ran almost the length of the field. He ended up passing to Hulk on his right side and Brazil grabbed one last corner. If he had passed to his left instead Willian would have been clean one on one with the goalkeeper.

It really irked me that he had no idea there was another player coming up behind him. It would have been the crowning moment of the game and something that would have more or less guaranteed him player of the tournament.

That being said, he's the standout player in the tournament so far. That penalty was just awesome.

Klaus wrote:

I absolutely love watching Neymar play football. They don't make them like that anymore. His relative inexperience in certain situations was shining through a few times though. There was a moment right at the end of the game; I think the clock showed 122 minutes. Pinilla hit the bar and Brazil countered through Neymar who ran almost the length of the field. He ended up passing to Hulk on his right side and Brazil grabbed one last corner. If he had passed to his left instead Willian would have been clean one on one with the goalkeeper.

It really irked me that he had no idea there was another player coming up behind him. It would have been the crowning moment of the game and something that would have more or less guaranteed him player of the tournament.

Yeah, I agree. I don't know why I just felt an urge to compare him to Messi who at a similar age (actually at 21) was dominating a Champions League final against United and scoring with his head. It was just moments like the one you described and the ones Y va is referring to, which just show he has that little bit more to do.

He is a joy to watch though.

Klaus wrote:

That being said, he's the standout player in the tournament so far. That penalty was just awesome.

I thought he was lucky with his peno.
I'm not a great fan of a stuttered run up, it suggests indecision.....

Rohit wrote:

Yeah, I agree. I don't know why I just felt an urge to compare him to Messi who at a similar age (actually at 21) was dominating a Champions League final against United and scoring with his head. It was just moments like the one you described and the ones Y va is referring to, which just show he has that little bit more to do.

He is a joy to watch though.

I think a fairer comparison might be Ronaldinho at the same age. Talent is on a corresponding level but Neymar is streets ahead so far. It remains to be seen if he can match Dinho's growth spurt though.

Klaus wrote:
Rohit wrote:

Yeah, I agree. I don't know why I just felt an urge to compare him to Messi who at a similar age (actually at 21) was dominating a Champions League final against United and scoring with his head. It was just moments like the one you described and the ones Y va is referring to, which just show he has that little bit more to do.

He is a joy to watch though.

I think a fairer comparison might be Ronaldinho at the same age. Talent is on a corresponding level but Neymar is streets ahead so far. It remains to be seen if he can match Dinho's growth spurt though.

Not sure how much the bulking up has improved him as he has lost some of the blistering speed and agility he had 3 years ago.

It's great to see the return of genuine flair players.

Neymar and Sanchez need to get out of Messi's shadow. They're much more amazing when asked to be the focal points of offense. They cherish the responsibility and carry their teams.

i thought neymar looked very overrated today, but maybe i'm being harsh. brazil's strikers are a joke, though. hard to believe fred and jo are their options.

Feel sorry for Chile, would have loved them to go through. What an epic game it was. Not really watched much of Sanchez before this tournament but completely sold on him now. Shame he missed his penalty.

Fair play to Hulk, he was immense. I don't really watch club football outside of Arsenal and CL but every time I'd seen him I've thought he was absolutely pony. Best player on the pitch and really surprised me in this match.

invisibleman18 wrote:

Fair play to Hulk, he was immense. I don't really watch club football outside of Arsenal and CL but every time I'd seen him I've thought he was absolutely pony. Best player on the pitch and really surprised me in this match.

he was really gee'd up for this match. Really tried to take it by the scruff of the neck.

He has been terrible in a lot of club football tho, and this match also showed some of why that's so- he seems to play with blinkers.

He really did live a life in 130 minutes of football yesterday.

invisibleman18 wrote:

Fair play to Hulk, he was immense. I don't really watch club football outside of Arsenal and CL but every time I'd seen him I've thought he was absolutely pony. Best player on the pitch and really surprised me in this match.

my lasting memory of hulk is him coming on as a sub for porto at the emirates and the crowd just laughing when they heard "coming on for porto: HULK"

I think that's the best penalty of all time in world cup finals, no saving that.

That's definitely up there with the best penalties I ever seen.

Pretty sure he was terrified and just looked to hit it hard and high.

IBL wrote:

I think that's the best penalty of all time in world cup finals, no saving that.

Julia Caesar flinches as the ball flies past 😆

kamikaze wrote:

sanchez has been a little disappointing. brazil is all over him, but he's shown a lack of awareness of runs around him, and holds the ball far too long (partly because of that lack of awareness).

Just finished watching the game, and I agree; Sanchez is brilliant, his speed, balance and close control, in particular, but I'm still not convinced by his awareness and vision. He missed so many chances to play people in - he just didn't see them. Goes without saying, though, I'd welcome him here with open arms.

Clrnc wrote:

That's definitely up there with the best penalties I ever seen.

Said the same at the time. What a hit. High risk but may as well go for something the keeper can't get to.

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