You get the feeling that City's prime motive behind all this is to weaken us.
Bacary Sagna Appreciation Thread
Not really. He's leaving whether its to City or not.
No one else seems interested and certainly no one else has offered anywhere near the numbers City reportedly have.
I don't know who has offered what.
If the difference really is £50k p/w with what City is offering then i can totally see why he wants to go. He has been on much less (reportedly like £40k-£60k) for so long that its normal to want and secure his future before his career ends.
Seems City move is done according to L'equipe and debut could be against us in the community shield
Probably be on the bench watching.
Is being rumoured that he is getting a deal worth £140k a week there, fair enough if he is happy to be a potentially be a backup player for that kind of money.
Just give him the as reported 90k a week, and add a million signing on fee, and some bonuses further down the contract and he would be earning roughly the same amount as he would at city.
As a bosman he's probably getting a hefty sign-on fee plus the 140k a week deal. Any sort of deal to match that is asking for trouble.
I love Sagna but Man City are absolute bonkers if they're really handing him a 140k pw contract.
120 is what I heard but we are only willing to offer him 90k, which is fair enough.
Sickening that players always want more money, although its human nature. You cant say you love Arsenal though and move to our rivals. I don't mind him going to PSG or Monaco but they are not interested in him.
I can't understand why PSG isn't more interested. Aren't their RBs Jallet and van der Wiel?
Jallet has been a great servant for them, while VDW was having a good season till his injury.
DM reporting that he has passed his medical to sign a 150k pw contract.
Got to love some of our fans. Apparently he is an OAP who could never cross.
We offered Sagna a great deal, a shame he wants to sit on the bench at City for extra money.
Is it really worth it? Maybe from personal POV for his family and himself, but in terms of how he is seen in the football world and his status?
Status would be one of the main advantages probably, those insane wages aside. He's criminally underrated, mainly because he stuck around for so long and won nothing with us. You can say the same about Koscielny at the moment.
If that is the amount he is going to get at City (23 million), then fair play. Good for him. Its almost 10 million more than what we had to offer (if the rumors about 90K are true).
We need to go and find a starting RB quickly.
Clrnc wrote:Is it really worth it? Maybe from personal POV for his family and himself, but in terms of how he is seen in the football world and his status?
He was not particularly rated by the rest of the football world while playing for us (in his prime, mind) so why should he be bothered about that now?
We underpaid him for years and only offered him "top dollar" when we realised his leaving wasn't an empty threat. If he goes to city i won't hold any hate against him as i did with ash-hole especially if the blow is softened by a proper replacement.
Eh, there is a huge chance to become a proper legend with us and get a testimonial. why give that up when he has toiled with us for such a long time and we have finally come good abit.
Him not being rated by the world is not linked to our trophies. Its more down to the fact that he is very useless in attack, and he doesn't catch the eye in this sense. He can only be seen as a solid full back instead of a world class one who is good at both ends.
Unless he plays as a CB, he is gonna sit mostly on the bench and get as much game time as Clichy. Not gonna help his status anyway
Would you leave that kind of money over some sentimental rubbish peddled by fickle fans? It's his last payday and an extra six or seven million will see his family sorted out for generations.
Not to mention a greater chance of trophies.
Fullbacks hardly ever become legends.
I can only think of Maldini and Zanetti.
Even Cafu, Breitner, Brehme and Roberto Carlos fall short.
In any case, a testimonial and being a legend don't pay the bills for the next 60 years of his life, either.
Bold Tone wrote:Fullbacks hardly ever become legends.
I can only think of Maldini and Zanetti.
Even Cafu, Breightner, Brehmne and Roberto Carlos fall short.
Thuram?
Yup. Thuram was fantastic and he would deserve to be one but, probably, never will due to his unglamourous position as a FB/CB which only his peers and knowledgeable football people appreciate.
What are you lot on?
Our very own Eboue is a legend!
Le professeur wrote:Bold Tone wrote:Fullbacks hardly ever become legends.
I can only think of Maldini and Zanetti.
Even Cafu, Breightner, Brehmne and Roberto Carlos fall short.Thuram?
Lahm is headed that way too.
How can Cafu not be considered a legend?
ebouefan wrote:Would you leave that kind of money over some sentimental rubbish peddled by fickle fans? It's his last payday and an extra six or seven million will see his family sorted out for generations.
Not to mention a greater chance of trophies.
His family is sorted out for generations already if he's smart enough.
Of course sentiment matters, there's loads of people around the world in varying sectors that sacrifice financial gain for prestige, passion, loyalty, family, location etc. In Football all that is magnified.
Bacc has served us well over the years, I for one do not begrudge him a nice big fat retirement paycheck.
Unless he goes to Utd or Tottenham in which case I hate him.
Biggus wrote:Unless he goes to Utd or Tottenham in which case I hate him.
Why United? We haven't competed with them since 9 years now..just curious that's all.
a testimonial? you assume that bac would even care. a lot of guys are content to play hard and then go straight home to their families, and dont give a toss about the "fans" or testimonials or whatever.
anyway, does bac even have a song that is regularly sung at matches? i wouldn't begrudge him a move anywhere, though i'd be disappointed if he went to barca or spurs.
dreamlord wrote:Biggus wrote:Unless he goes to Utd or Tottenham in which case I hate him.
Why United? We haven't competed with them since 9 years now..just curious that's all.
We will always hate United because of our past rivalries.
City will be at that stage if we regularly compete for titles, but unfortunately we don't. We hate Liverpool mostly because of their fans.
dreamlord wrote:Why United?
There's 7000 words of explanation right there.
Fair enough, I guess I have a short memory.
otfgoon wrote:How can Cafu not be considered a legend?
Was thinking the same. One of the best RBs to ever play the game IMO. Was doing it for Milan even in his 30s.
I'd consider Roberto Carlos a legend too. I'd say he was a word's top 5 player around 1996 to 2000.
don't forget this fella
kamikaze wrote:a testimonial? you assume that bac would even care. a lot of guys are content to play hard and then go straight home to their families, and dont give a toss about the "fans" or testimonials or whatever.
anyway, does bac even have a song that is regularly sung at matches? i wouldn't begrudge him a move anywhere, though i'd be disappointed if he went to barca or spurs.