Segway wrote:

Captain logic I guess. You always state your opinion like it's fact.

It is a fact that Campbell was better than Terry.

Sol was an absolute monster. I don't think the guy ever lost out in an aerial dual.

And he was definitely better than John Terry, as was Rio Ferdinand.

I think Segway's point is, most Chelsea fans will also say "its a fact Terry is better than Campbell".

They will, of course. Would be more interesting in hearing what fans of clubs other than Arsenal and Chelsea think.

Most would say Terry, for sure.

The sheep always vote for the guy who has the final word. Didn't you guys read Animal Farm?

Before we signed Campbell EVERY big club in England and Europe was fighting for his signature, I don't know what Wenger must of said to get him to join us but was one of the biggest shock transfers ever.

Even on his return in 09/10 for us he was fantastic, disappointed he didn't stay another year. Remember him chasing Bale down and tackling him, not the quickest initial acceleration but once he got going I think there were few who could outrun him. Such a shame what happened in 05/06, think he had some personal issues that got to him. If we had kept him for a few more years we wouldn't of had as many CB issues like we did that is for sure. Could of played at the top level until he was 35, immense defender.

Weird that John Terry was actually really well liked and respected before the whole Wayne Bridge thing came to light.

Timothy wrote:

Weird that John Terry was actually really well liked and respected before the whole Wayne Bridge thing came to light.

I have always hated him

I meant by the general public and English fans of non-rival clubs. Ofcourse most Arsenal fans have always hated him.

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe people generally don't pay attention to this stuff but every single rumour that has ever been spilled about his private life suggests that he's utter scum. Played like a typical drinker for years too before his alcohol problems came into light. I've never seen anything either on or off the pitch that made me like him.

Now something to wash away the Terryball stench from this thread.
without knowing

5 days later

with theo out and the champions league fixtures coming up next month, I thought I would have a look at some of bayern's best moves this season.

I am scared...

Not too impressed by that video.

I wonder what would've happened to him if he hadn't put on all that weight in Italy. Even before he got fat he was really pushing it for a guy his size. He weighed as much as Ibrahimovic who's almost three inches taller and probably the heaviest striker in all of football. Safe to say it stopped some of his finer skills from developing any further.

Wasn't he was suffering from depression? Had a drinking problem too.

Adriano was class (briefly), ridiculously left footed, but a real tank.

Volante wrote:

Wasn't he was suffering from depression? Had a drinking problem too.

Yeah, but before that. Back when he was doing well for Inter. He probably put on 30 pounds of muscle mass in the span of two or three years.

I read an article a few years ago which compared his physical evolution in Italy to Ronaldo's. Inter have been blamed for a lot of the injuries Ronaldo were plagued with because of the muscular imbalance in his body. It's my feeling that the same was true with Adriano to some extent. You can't make a 6 ft 2 player bulk up like that in a sport where the joints in knees and ankles already have to endure so much strain due to the start-and-stop nature of the running.

So you're saying Inter ruined both of them?

I don't know, but it has been suggested. Ronaldo used to be so bloody quick too. The idea was that his knees couldn't handle the stress from all that weight when his movement was altered too much or brought to a sudden stop.

Inter weren't the only factor though. It was just as much about the lifestyle choices he made. Just look at him today. He looks like a balloon. I think it was Beckham who claimed that Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos used to throw barbecue parties every week in Spain. It doesn't surprise me at all.

Makes you appreciate how much of a machine CR has turned himself into. He's not got the pure football ability R9 did but his dedication to his body and the way he prepares is second to none.

Yeah, Cristiano Ronaldo is the ultimate footballing machine. Everything is trimmed down to the smallest detail. He even adjusted his teeth to be able to clamp his jaws together better (separate procedure from the purely cosmetic one he underwent all those years ago).

Klaus wrote:

He even adjusted his teeth to be able to clamp his jaws together better (separate procedure from the purely cosmetic one he underwent all those years ago).

Really? What does this achieve in terms of performance? Would appreciate a link if you've got one.

It was in a Swedish paper interview three or four years back. He had his wisdom teeth removed at the same time and talked a bit about how statistics showed that they could cause a problem later on in his career, so he had them pulled as soon as his schedule permitted it and then spent most of the summer lying in bed. I'll see if I can find it.

I'm not sure the adjustment as such achieved much at all in terms of performance. I think it was more of a comfort thing, possibly related to heavy training where you tend to clench your teeth together.

Was it not reported Ljungberg had something like that done too?

Loads of footballers have the procedure done.

I always thought it was fucking bizarre

counterintuitive science

always hated Milan for being dire even with Bergkamp in. I just wanted to watch Bergkamp, but they made me hate even that.

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However much we hate Barca, the best player in the world deserves to be in here.

The moment in that comp which gave me goosebumps was Henry v Leeds. That moment, is exactly what being a fan is about for me.

Commentator screaming "Parlour" gets me everytime followed by Arshavin against Barca although it was, unfortunately, snipped from this compilation.

Love the Parlour shout too

It's not in there but Freddies goal against Chelsea was ace too. I love how he left John Terry on his arse.

Would love the thread to have compilations of the many unheralded players as well.

Funny seeing Arteta in there. I had forgotten how long he's been around in Premier League.

Edit: Henry's skill at 9m 09s :drool: