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Özil!!

Bosscielny

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
y va marquer wrote:
😆
Little bit playa now

😆 brilliant

Would you guys deem that NSFW? I sent it to me fiancé and she told me off!

The person dancing is actually a 10 year old boy.

I don't know if that makes it worse or not.

Tactics

Cesc is a level above when it comes to vision IMO. His vision is at a genuis level. Players with the best vision that I have watched regularly are: Totti, Ronaldinho, Cesc, Bergkamp, Guti(yes Zidane is not among them).

I'd say Fabregas has got better vision and is also the better finisher(maybe not for long as I expect Wenger to improve Ozil's finishing).

Ozil is faster, more skilful, the better dribbler and he's far more entertaining to watch IMO.

Aparamesh

otfgoon wrote:
Conor wrote:

:o

He's like a cross breed of Zidane and Pires :drool:

I really don't see the pires comparisons. He does remind me of zidane a bit though.

Aparamesh

Tactics wrote:
Cesc is a level above when it comes to vision IMO. His vision is at a genuis level. Players with the best vision that I have watched regularly are: Totti, Ronaldinho, Cesc, Bergkamp, Guti(yes Zidane is not among them).

I'd say Fabregas has got better vision and is also the better finisher(maybe not for long as I expect Wenger to improve Ozil's finishing).

Ozil is faster, more skilful, the better dribbler and he's far more entertaining to watch IMO.

I agree with your assessment. Personally, I would also add laudrup to your list. Though I don't think cesc is less entertaining.

yuv

Reading this and some other related Ozil stuff after a few days, The vids, the formations and the level of excitement, that, if anything just seems to grow, made me think that we really needed such a signing for sooo, so long. And needed it so, so bad. The Ozilmania has become a religion by now. Dude hasn't even played a game for us - he didn't even get to London yet 😆.

He's given us a bit of that taste of "we're so lucky to have Henry" we missed, and lost the last drop of with VP (Santi just gave glimpses, not the whole thing).

Knucklehead

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
y va marquer wrote:
😆
Little bit playa now

😆 brilliant

Would you guys deem that NSFW? I sent it to me fiancé and she told me off!

Is she a nun?

TambourineMan

He's only 24 so he has plenty of years to give and we have time to build around him a team worthy of his talents. Play our cards right and within the next three years we could dominant at a Munich 12/13 like level. One world class addition each summer for the next three whilst maintaning the core of Koscienly, Gibbs, Wilshere/Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla and Walcott should do it.

kamikaze

that was true when we had fabregas too, so lets not get carried away.

i think the ozil purchase only gets our net transfer spend over the last 9 yrs to just above zero, which i'm pretty sure is still close to last in england.

TambourineMan

Wenger missed one opportunity and hopefully he'll do things differently how he has another truly special player at his disposal.

Asterix

He's our new Brady, and I'm very, very happy.

Captain

yuv wrote:
Reading this and some other related Ozil stuff after a few days, The vids, the formations and the level of excitement, that, if anything just seems to grow, made me think that we really needed such a signing for sooo, so long. And needed it so, so bad. The Ozilmania has become a religion by now. Dude hasn't even played a game for us - he didn't even get to London yet 😆.

He's given us a bit of that taste of "we're so lucky to have Henry" we missed, and lost the last drop of with VP (Santi just gave glimpses, not the whole thing).

Arsenal haven't made a signing like Ozil during my lifetime. Maybe Sol Campbell comes close.

Rohit

Bergkamp wasn't doing that well in Italy but he was a massive signing for the club wasn't he?

Burnwinter

Captain wrote:
Arsenal haven't made a signing like Ozil during my lifetime. Maybe Sol Campbell comes close.

Sol's probably the only one to piss Spurs off more. 😃

y va marquer

Bergkamp signing was a massive coup for Rioch, smashed our transfer record, a fresh start and a new era.

Captain

Bergkamp was a big name and signing for Arsenal, but as said, he was coming off the back of a terrible time in Italy. He wasn't like Sol who was basically wanted by everyone in world football and he wasn't a star at the biggest club in the world like Ozil.

y va marquer

At the time we signed Bergkamp we'd just come out of a fairly dire season where we'd finished 12th and Bunga Graham had been sacked.
That we signed Bergkamp was huge in that context

Burnwinter

One reason why Bergkamp could be thought of as a bigger deal than Sol was without thinking solely about how famous they were, or how desired by other clubs - Bergkamp came at a time when we were languishing in the league (no St Totteringham's Day), our talismanic manager had departed in disgrace, and the man who replaced him wasn't thought of too highly.

Sol came when the Wenger era was established, when we'd changed from Graham's Arsenal to the best footballing side in the league, and when we were already recognised as title contenders.

One transformed, the other strengthened. One graced the league, the other dominated it.

Burnwinter

Or right yeah what Yves said.

Captain

Yes, for Arsenal. And even for football fans in england because his name was still big internationally and country games were still the pinnacle without wall to wall saturation of the game.

But signing Campbell or especially Ozil needs no context. If anything, it just goes to show how irregularly Wenger actually signs big stars.

ebouefan

General Mirth wrote:
More than his vision or passing, I think his ability to run with the ball will open up teams in ways we haven't seen before since I don't think most teams in the league are set up to stop a player like him.

Can just imagine the likes of Allardyce sending his cloggers to kick him up in the air. Wenger needs to create some pressure on the refs to protect him.

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