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Official Injury Thread 2013/14

kamikaze

over the last 9 years, it wouldn't surprise me if arsenal averaged the most matches missed due to soft tissue injuries. we seem to get so many muscle pulls and strains, and the players never come back on time, and there's always a setback or two or three.

lots of chatter that wenger's training methods, which were progressive back in 1996, have not been updated at all, and are now obsolete. same with the quality of our medical staff.

Rex

Actually, we have suffered both the most contact injuries AND non-contact injuries in the 'regular' top 10 going back more than a decade. I posted links a page or so back to articles on this based on hard data. Articles are a bit long, but if this interests you they are a good read.

kamikaze

we're clearly doing something wrong then. that's a big enough sample size.

marv3llous

Wenger is clearly overplaying our most productive players. Giroud was actually semi-useful until he was squeezed empty. Özil was not subbed often or early enough and it resulted in an injury. Ramsey - clearly. Jack is bit of a permacrock anyway. Walcott doesnt get rotated enough when he's available. Gibbs is injury prone aswell. Per & Kos played pretty much every fixture when available - only logical they eventually break down.

Wenger is just gambling on their fitness. This is clear. He has admitted on several occasions he started players when they were in 'red' and got injured.

Kel Varnsen

kamikaze wrote:
over the last 9 years, it wouldn't surprise me if arsenal averaged the most matches missed due to soft tissue injuries. we seem to get so many muscle pulls and strains, and the players never come back on time, and there's always a setback or two or three.

lots of chatter that wenger's training methods, which were progressive back in 1996, have not been updated at all, and are now obsolete. same with the quality of our medical staff.

Wenger is still playing championship manager 3 while the rest of the football world has moved on to football manager 2014. The man is outdated and past it.

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/why-arsene-wenger-is-stuck-playing-a-real-life-version-of-championship-manager-2002-with-arsenal

MistaT

Is it that our players are injury prone, or that we play them into the ground? I'd suspect its a little as both as we certainly have injury prone players (wilshere, gibbs, maybe even Theo) and others who get overplayed (Giroud, Ramsey, etc).

Kurtz

So I'm expecting a lot of injuries

arsedocmd

Good Fucking thing Wales aren't playing the world cup. Ramsey should be tearing it up the start of next season, touch wood

lorddulaarsenal

When ozil back? Need him

stidds

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
When ozil back? Need him

Wenger says that he could be back next Saturday.

Kurtz

Could Diaby make the bench for the Cup final?

Rex

He can take Källström's spot then.

Biggus

😆 Holy fuck, Diaby Kallstrom......
And do you know what- Theres every chance you fellas could be right!

Kel Varnsen

When is Wilshere back? Need him back as well.

Patters

Kel Varnsen wrote:
When is Wilshere back? Need him back as well.

Arsenal.com wrote:
Speaking on April 10, ahead of the FA Cup semi-final against Wigan, Arsene Wenger said: "It's all going well but he has not started to run. I think that's planned for next week. At the moment all is going well."

I don't think he'll make much difference to our remaining games now. Doesn't look like he'll be back for at least a couple of weeks so maybe the FA Cup final is the target.

I'm secretly hoping Hodgson tries to make a statement and drops him from the WC squad. Just can't see any way he can suddenly start playing with flair as opposed to the restrictive, unbalanced footwork we've seen in the last couple of years. He was talking earlier on this season about the criticism that he was getting, well the knives will really be out if he struggles at the big stage.

Rex

Found this interesting from UEFA's medical committee. Especially the bit at 2.30 where this is said:

"It is a part of the game, but it’s not an unavoidable part of the game. It’s a myth in football, that injuries are depending on good or bad luck. I can definitely say there is no such thing as good or bad luck when it’s connected to injuries (muscle). There are always reasons for injuries."

http://www.uefa.com/news/newsid=1716041.html

goon

kamikaze wrote:
over the last 9 years, it wouldn't surprise me if arsenal averaged the most matches missed due to soft tissue injuries. we seem to get so many muscle pulls and strains, and the players never come back on time, and there's always a setback or two or three.

lots of chatter that wenger's training methods, which were progressive back in 1996, have not been updated at all, and are now obsolete. same with the quality of our medical staff.

That doesn't make much sense though, back then we had a MUCH smaller squad with players playing a larger number of games. Yet we rarely suffered injuries.

If those methods worked back then why wouldn't they work now? It's not like the human race has evolved overnight to become more injury prone.

It implies to me that something has changed, rather than nothing has changed. Could be anything from the type of players or the style of play as Biggus suggested or maybe the training/fitness work has been altered?

Rex

The game has changed. It is faster, more sprinting is required, and players have to work harder when defending these days.

goon

Is it really faster? Looks slower to me.

Besides, we're not talking about a gradual change, quite literally went from hardly any injuries pre-2004 to having 5+ at any one time post 2004.

ludovicvanzis

I don't buy that there's this common knowledge solution out there that all the other clubs have adopted except for us. We're constantly in contact with experts from all over the world, and with the sports medical community in general. If the problem was something obvious we'd have fixed it by now.

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