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Squad Analysis 2013/14

Rex

I too was well chuffed with our transfer window last summer. Until mid August.

Irishgunner

banduan wrote:
I have complete faith we'll get our signings done by the end of the window, just really pissed off we didn't do it before the season began like we did last year.

I was quite satisfied with our transfer window last year, despite the loss of RvP. Disappointed we didn't take another step forward from that.

edit: never thought much of Poldi though. But I'd also like to see how he'd do with Giroud in a 4-2-2

4-4-2

--------Podolski---Giroud
Caz---Wilshere---Ramsey---Theo
Gibbs----Kos-------Mert---Sagna

Could be decent, Jack and Ramsey would need to work out a proper partnership and actually defend.

Caz and Theo would be pretty crappy wingers too, both looking to drift central far too often.

evoh

Problem with Podolski is that he can't play when Walcott is also playing as both are similar players who lack defensive contribution off the ball in terms of work rate and actually breaking up play.

Our summer transfer window last year was great until we caved in and took it up the Arse from Robin and Red Nose, if we had replaced Song with Dembele and kept RvP........

Qwiss

Irish gunner wrote:
banduan wrote:
I have complete faith we'll get our signings done by the end of the window, just really pissed off we didn't do it before the season began like we did last year.

I was quite satisfied with our transfer window last year, despite the loss of RvP. Disappointed we didn't take another step forward from that.

edit: never thought much of Poldi though. But I'd also like to see how he'd do with Giroud in a 4-2-2

4-4-2

--------Podolski---Giroud
Caz---Wilshere---Ramsey---Theo
Gibbs----Kos-------Mert---Sagna

Could be decent, Jack and Ramsey would need to work out a proper partnership and actually defend.

Caz and Theo would be pretty crappy wingers too, both looking to drift central far too often.

Something like that would be great to surprise Fulham with on Saturday. Teams are so used to how we're going to play you'd have to think a shake up like that would catch them completely off guard.

evoh

--------Podolski---Giroud
Caz---Wilshere---Ramsey---Theo
Gibbs----Kos-------Mert---Sagna

that formation realistically would look like this

-----Podolski---Giroud--Theo
----------Caz-----Wilshere
Gibbs---------Ramsey------Sagna

---------Kos-------Mert-----

And yes that Gap would be there.

dreamlord

Irish gunner wrote:
Can't believe people are moaning about Podolski, top player with a great international pedigree. Just needs the right service and needs to be surrounded with intelligent players.

Not 'people', just me.

It seems like the only argument people can put up for him is the 100+ caps 😆 do his match day performances for Arsenal FC not count for anything? Don't care what he's done for Germany in the past. For us he's been average.

As for the bolded, yeah sure. Also applies to Giroud. Doesn't make him a top player.

banduan

evoh wrote:
Problem with Podolski is that he can't play when Walcott is also playing as both are similar players who lack defensive contribution off the ball in terms of work rate and actually breaking up play.

completely disagree. Poldi tracks back a lot and one of the best games we had last season involved these two playing well.

Qwiss

Podolskis minutes/goals & assists ratio for last season is pretty damn good. Plus he does get involved quite a bit and even learned to track a bit more last season too. Can't understand what Wengers problem is with him.

Biggus

evoh wrote:
--------Podolski---Giroud
Caz---Wilshere---Ramsey---Theo
Gibbs----Kos-------Mert---Sagna

that formation realistically would look like this

-----Podolski---Giroud--Theo
----------Caz-----Wilshere
Gibbs---------Ramsey------Sagna

---------Kos-------Mert-----

And yes that Gap would be there.

That's because we don't have the right personnel to play 4-4-2, we have too many attacking non physical players.
You must control midfield and this team is built around doing that through numbers rather than one or even two enforcers.
That leaves you light in other areas.
Fact is we have two many similar players because Wenger built another system.

Bold Tone

banduan wrote:
evoh wrote:
Problem with Podolski is that he can't play when Walcott is also playing as both are similar players who lack defensive contribution off the ball in terms of work rate and actually breaking up play.

completely disagree. Poldi tracks back a lot and one of the best games we had last season involved these two playing well.

Podolski is like Ronseal. He is and always will be what he is! No need to discuss.
I think Walcott, on the other hand, would contribute more to the team by simply tracking back more, and making sure the right side of our defence is locked down, as we do not have any pace in midfield and are powerless to stop fast counter attacks.

Biggus

He doesn't even need to tackle he can pick up loose balls.

MistaT

MistaT wrote:
MistaT wrote:
If Arteta, Koscielny or Sagna go down at any point this season I'll have immediate serious concerns about our ability to get 4th.

Fuck me - but a day later and 2/3 are carrying injury concerns into the season opener.

Only at Arsenal 😆

:gah:

invisibleman18

Thought Podolski was one of our best players last season to be honest. Certainly the most likely forward to score. The biggest name we have at the club and he's our highest wage earner isn't he? Not being in the side does not make any sense. And certainly no sense in not bringing him on until the 94th minute where we're a goal down at home.

Also,

The transfer market starts for me now and a lot of activity will happen between now and September 2.

You find yourself face palming at almost everything he says don't you? The transfer market starts now? 😆

Mirth

invisibleman18 wrote:
Thought Podolski was one of our best players last season to be honest. Certainly the most likely forward to score. The biggest name we have at the club and he's our highest wage earner isn't he?

Nah, it's Walcott. I suspect Podolski has been dropped because playing both him and Walcot didn't do the team any favours last season. Having Cazorla on one side offered a lot more balance.

Tactics

That's what I think too. He could be rotated with Walcott(with Santi moving to the right) if he starts banging them in

Irishgunner

Dreamboat will be delighted to see this:

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/schalke/an-podolski-dran-31929138.bild.html

Poldi to Schalke rumours.

Claudius

invisibleman18 wrote:
The transfer market starts for me now and a lot of activity will happen between now and September 2.

You find yourself face palming at almost everything he says don't you? The transfer market starts now? 😆

Is that a Wenger quote? Isn't this the same guy who said that he wished the transfer market would close before the season started? Seriously.

invisibleman18

Yep that's a quote from the post-match press conference, copy and pasted from .com. I quoted the other comment the other day too.

Pre-match quote:

I repeated many, many times that the transfer window should be over before the season starts because it is destabilising a little bit once the season has started - to be there talking about what is not really important in football.

Post-match quote:

The transfer market starts for me now and a lot of activity will happen between now and September 2. From August 21 until September 2 you have 12 days, so a lot will happen. It starts now.

Claudius

Nut job.

Tam

I don't see that there's a conflict in what he's saying. On one hand he's clearly saying he'd prefer it to be over by the time the season starts, whereas on the other he's describing the reality of the situation where there is far more movement later in the transfer window. Plenty of reasons why that's the case - clubs taking time finalising their own plans/squads, players on holiday holding up deals earlier in the window, injuries even. The list is endless. I've said before, there's plenty mistakes to criticise Wenger over, but picking out things like that where it is clear what he means just comes across as quite petty.

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